Thank you Venantius! On Fri, 5 Feb 2021 at 01:22, Venantius J Pinto <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello Sonia! > > Although I know a thing or two — I really appreciate you for your gracious > intervention. There are some interesting pages, wikis, articles on > Portuguese orthography including as in the former Portuguese colonies. > > I personally use the ‘c’ for copel. > > Btw, a few times while living in Bombay I recollect distinctly hearing > Goans also say Hampri. And that diminutive of sorts ka/ hapullo > (spelling?!) > > Cafre if I recollect is coffee which I’d order on my one trip to Lisbon for > the Goan conference. Perhaps also used to convey blackness. > > Consider a Konkani abecedary with such unique or rather unusual words. At > the risk of sounding daft, Let me mention that I am a very good > illustrator/artist ... for design visual organs likd book covers, etc. > > ‘Mhoje-xim Uloila’/m mhun tujem borem zanv! > > Venantius > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 4:07 AM Sonia Gomes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Another tiny intervention. The K is not used only C. Even now Portuguese > > use only C; K is for words of foreign origin. Kapri comes from Cafre > which > > is Black. > > > > Thanks > > > > Sonia > > > > On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 at 02:46, Venantius J Pinto < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > She was my mother, who made it to a few months short of 90. Perhaps I > > > erred! All cool. > > > > > > Certainly, await the real experts, besides it’s good academic form. In > > the > > > meanwhile if worth the while - consider other dimensions that I pointed > > > out, including to look into the orthographic changes which happened in > > the > > > early part of the nineteenth century. Different tongues had their > > > abecedarian variants. Slight but significant to the nuanced ear. By > then > > it > > > goes the way of the mass. The crispness so to speak in certain langu > > > > > > Those who knew English had seen a “k,”and by knowing it, were in all > > > probability not shy in employing it. Others would have been less > > eclectic, > > > read errant too, and more fastidious in avoiding its usage. Some never > > knew > > > that changes had occurred nor were told way later. Yet others had > private > > > tutors, family chapels and other accoutrements on their plane of > > existence. > > > Zoi zoi, to that! > > > > > > We have a small ivory baby Jesu with tiny gold lacing around its > wrists, > > > ankles, neck and waist. Perhaps others have one two. I think of it > often, > > > never of owning works by our famous and celebrated artists. To my mind > we > > > were nobodies, other than having a Grand Uncle priest who delivered > > sermons > > > on radio. But I can own sounds, a few words, inflections, snippets of > > life > > > - and make them my own. > > > > > > Extrapolation from the original topic which had its own streams of > > > thought?! Yes and no. And it’s Khapri/ also Kappiri. In fairness this > > > awareness is on tap. > > > > > > What St. Francis built would have been referred by him in his native > > > tongue. Our ancestors accordingly could have used the Portuguese word > > > “capela” for whatever length of time and on account of whatever > > inclination > > > before arriving at “copel.” Perhaps even momentarily “deul.” > Researchers > > > make correlations. Even a freaking bone found may things in another > > > direction. Everything adds to someone’s living. We simply must observe > > and > > > age gracefully. I am indeed trying. > > > > > > I could be imaging things. The decent unto death may have begun! Lots > to > > > say but .... > > > > > > Best all. > > > > > > > > > Venantius J Pinto > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 1:53 PM Adolfo Mascarenhas <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Message: 4 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 02:06:15 -0500 > > > > From: Venantius J Pinto <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > Dear Venantius thank you for the detailed explanation extending all > > the > > > > way to your 95 years old Grandmother ....Even for people who have not > > > gone > > > > to school, they used their God Given brains. > > > > > > > > There were so many dimensions to your response, like no K but C > > .....(so > > > > where did the Word Kapri in Konkoni originate If off the cuff you > could > > > > tell me so much ....I am wondering what the real experts will tell me > > > > including a fellow who just has added Dr...to his name > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > ::::In a sense my question was related to the Estate with Quepem and > > > > Outside ....Denisha sent me a picture of the intended Gatto ...... > > > > > > > > :::::But it does not stop there ....what did St Francis build in > Kilwa > > > > .....a Copel ......I know that the Moslems build Two huge mosques > > > > > > > > Thank you ....for your patience ....may you be saved from evil > mayors > > > > ....and that friend of Trump called Dinesh > > > > > > > > > > > > Grandolfo > > > > > > > > In safe Makongo Juu ...Dar es Salaam > > > > > > > > To: "Goa's premiere m. 1994!" <[email protected]> Cc: > > > "To: > > > > Goanet Org" <[email protected]>, Frederick Noronha < > > > > [email protected]>, Roland Francis < > > > > [email protected]>, Lorraine Dias <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: Re: [Goanet] To Konkani & English Experts > > > > Message-ID: > > > > < > > > > caoy3ljnanqdnoeucxmh7hlv-kt0nmypc6owbuqcoye5ulnl...@mail.gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
