Dear Shashikant, With respect I have to tell you that what you write is complete nonsense. You cannot ignore the history of bad relations between Portugal and India.
1. In 1961, Estado da India Portuguesa (including Goa) was an almost autonomous province with local government and local registrar offices. There was no need in the 1950s and 1960s to take all birth certificates to Portugal. In fact, in 1961, the population of all provinces together (5 provinces in Africa alone) was much higher than the entire population of continental Portugal. So you can imagine that at that time, to have central registrar offices in Portugal would make no sense and would be an enormous overhead besides being a complete duplication. There were no computers at that time as you must know... 2. You make the comparison with the British. Another nonsense. Whilst the British gave independence to British India and remained in good diplomatic relations, the Portuguese were kicked out of India, ie, India invaded and conquered Portuguese India. It was an act of aggression. An act of war and illegal under United Nations resolutions. Both countries India and Portugal did not have diplomatic relations for many years (much before 1961 and until 1975). 3. How would it be possible for the Portuguese government to take their records with them after 1961 or after 1975? Does this make any sense at all? Are you really suggesting that all original birth records prior to 1961 should have been taken to Portugal? Would that be acceptable to India and to the freedom fighters? Think about it please. Think about the implications. The Portuguese prisoners of war were returned to Portugal only after 6 months after Dec 1961. Maybe you are suggesting that they should have taken all original birth certificates issued prior 1961 with them... LOL! Even today freedom fighters strongly oppose the idea of any relation to Portugal. Do you think they would approve the actions you suggested after 1961 or after 1975? You are dreaming my friend. 4. What British nationality are you talking about? How many Indians born in India and who never left India were successful in obtaining British nationality? Another nonsense. 5. You make it look like the Portuguese government is benefiting from all this new Portuguese citizenship applicants, ie, according to you, it appears that you think that the applicants are doing Portugal a favour by becoming citizens of Portugal. Quite the opposite my friend!!! It is time for you to do a reality check! You are living in a dream. 6. Of course there is a complaints procedure in place in Portugal and of course it works. You just need to write and complain to the right entity. And you need to write it in the official language of Portugal. Having gone through this process myself I can guarantee that the complain procedure works. However, it appears that there is a language barrier and most complaints are unsuccessful because of that. Also, many times what the applicants ask makes no sense. Judging from what you wrote, I can imagine that a complaint from you would be totally ignored. Between the 1960s to the 1980s you would be able to recoup your Portuguese citizenship within weeks and the requirements were minimal. The cost was minimal too. In 1990s you would be able to recoup your Portuguese citizenship within months and the requirements were still minimal. Suddenly there was a huge amount of false applications detected. Hence it was require to make the process stricter and that is the reason why it takes so long now and there are much more requirements (original document pre-1961 is now required). Regarding your other post, of course we live in a democracy and you are free to wait and decide your future even after 40 years, however, the Portuguese authorities are also free to change the rules at any point in time. You are not benefiting Portugal by becoming a Portuguese citizen. Quite the opposite. It is important that you finally realise that because it is clear that you do not understand! Best of luck Paulo. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zodiacs Sent: 16 July 2007 23:36 To: Goanet Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa to Portugal - the journey of art ......thethree-day Global Goan Convention in Lisbon (Gabe Menezes /Jose Colaco) I agree with jose response to my message especially the portuguese government not trusting indian documents. However i would further add to my reply that; 1)Why has the portuguese government not obtain the records of Birth,marriage, death from the respective registrars of Goa, daman & diu and all these years ridiculously wasted in allegations. Like the british government who left their colonies, they took all the records with them due to which there has been no fraud in getting british nationality.The portuguese governement has not taken any initiative to co-ordiante with the indian government in obtaining records before 1961 as applicable. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/904 - Release Date: 16/07/2007 17:42
