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Hi Gilbert
I will try to confine myself in this instance, by and large, to your points
about Hitler. Indeed I am surprised you referred to caste at all when you kept
saying that I had been going on and on about it endlessly and I had therefore
stopped on this issue for a couple of months. You now chose to revisit this
topic and you thus give me no option but to respond to you briefly here and
just a little later, in response to another poster.
To reiterate, I had previously argued variously to one and all and therefore
including Bandare that, Hitler was a Catholic by birth/family, baptism,
confirmation, schooling, church attendance and paying church taxes throughout
his life, taking of sacraments, being photographed/filmed in churches etc,
working on Concordants with the Vatican, and possibly, receiving the last
rites. He was barely reprimanded when the knowledge of his extermination of
Jews, intellectuals, socialists etc, many of whom were Catholics, became known.
Indeed, his book Mien Kamf and his public speeches extolled the elimination of
the Jews, in particular, but also of "mentally and physically defective people"
gypsies and particularly the Slavs. Above all, he believed (in his own
testimony) that he was completing Christ's work of eliminating the Jews as per
the Bible! Yet, for complex reasons, he was not excommunicated by the Catholic
Church. He was nevertheless a rotten Catholic, like some other
publicly known rotten Catholics historically and today like the Mafioso, the
Cosa Nostra and those Catholic Goans who believe in caste strongly. I have
assiduously collected their expressions pertaining to caste and especially
about what they have said about Catholic Goans supposedly to be beneath them.
Much as you would like to, you have never been able to demonstrate, when
somehow, Hitler ceased to be a Catholic during his lifetime. All you stress,
without evidence is that, Hitler was not a Catholic. I put it to you that this
is because almost instinctively, you are the GREAT DENIALIST of anything you
don't like including the fact of the Inquisition in Goa, the fact, as in most
parts of South America (and Goa of course), the respective Portuguese and
Spanish conquerors demolished indigenous temples/shrines and built Catholic
cathedrals on top of them to thus represent a hegomonic, symbolic and concrete
challenge to those of other faiths. Currently, this is of intense anger to many
of the South American indigenous peoples and particularly their intelligentsia.
Let me also tell you that you have absolutely no clue as to my
professionalism. This is determined through peer review following my
innumerable presentations in public lectures/presentations across the world,
professional journal articles and books used as texts in reputable universities
not only in the UK but across the world. I am not dependent on an odd ball like
you for my professional reputation nor do any Goanet articles inflate my CV as
you stupidly suggest. No Goanet article has ever been listed in my CV for the
simple reason that a Goanet article is totally different from a professional
article which is rigorously referenced, goes through the process of specialist
review over a long period before it sees the light of day in a journal or as a
chapter in a book. If I were as stupid as you make yourself to be, I would be
absurdly commenting on your medical contribution and this I have never done nor
even dreamt of doing. Do you understand the substance in this
paragraph or are you a sheer waste of my time like an ignoramus?
Hitler has been studied by serious historians for over sixty years. What we
know about him has been examined and evaluated through much critique. New
material will add to this stock of knowledge after it has been evaluated and
some older material may be discarded because of new data. Your new author may
or may not get established as a serious researcher/author. Yet, you seem to
rely on this untested person as though his word is like some God's gift to a
layman like you. I have not yet even come across reviews of your new author nor
read his book chapter but I hope to do so in good time. For now, the
established theories about Hitler prevail in academia and in serious texts---I
therefore prevail upon you to read some of these. They are remarkably
enlightening to Catholics and non Catholics.
I have said repeatedly that Hitler was a rotten Catholic and pretty demented
as such. Is it surprising therefore if he perhaps felt the need to eliminate
the Pope at the time and replace him by an appointee of his own? The Americans
do this all the time and call it "regime change"! Is it surprising that the
Pope in turn was apprehensive about what Hitler might do to the Vatican in
Rome?. After all, Hitler had planned to raze Paris to the ground as he did many
Polish cities. Did you know about this? And is it at all surprising that out of
a billion plus Catholics, a handful would be rotten to the core and still
insist through practise that they were Catholics?
If you had any sense, you would understand that my writings are not "lofty".
about caste or anything else. I am absolutely serious and determined to expose
Catholic Goans for the absolute two-faced hypocrites they are regarding
Catholicism coexisting with the incompatibility of Hindu caste belief. Believe
you me, I have hardly begun in this endeavour however uncomfortable it makes
you and others like you feel. My endeavour is also to draw out people who will
challenge me on my attack on caste. Caste among the Catholic Goans has been
around rather too long in some strange kind of bogus respectability when it is
utterly vile as a belief and practise system. Intelligent so called Brahmins
tend not to take me on because they know, for certain that, casteism is
untenable. However the somewhat noisy response tends to come from the empty
vessels who have virtually no intellect worth talking about.
Good wishes. I typed this in ten minutes flat using just two fingers as I do.
There was ever so little of you to demolish with the greatest of ease.
Cornel DaCosta, Kunbi Vaddo, London, UK.
PS You recently said that I used the word "casteist" incorrectly and so let
me enlighten you. The word caste is used as a noun, as well as an adjective and
in different versions in different parts of speech in English grammar. However,
when a person says (as some Goans have said and have been reported as saying,
even on Goanet that, they believe in caste) it should immediately be noted that
the word is not neutral and begs clarification. It is a loaded term pregnant
with meaning. Among other things, caste implies hierarchy. The person who says
"I believe in caste" is effectively stating, as a given, that there is an
inborn/unchangeable hierarchy of peoples and that, he is somewhere at the top.
Indeed, all the issues from Hinduism about purity, pollution, non-pollution
creep into the mind set. The man who believes in caste becomes whether he knows
it or not into a casteist (the carrier of this evil ideology). To say as was
done on Goanet that a former Minister in Goa
believed in caste, but was not a casteist, is plain dumb because it makes him
a casteist by implication. Otherwise, the person would be intelligent enough
not to draw attention to him in terms of caste. The same theoretical
explanation relates to the concept of 'race'.
Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There have been many a thread on Goanet about Hitler and his relationship with
the Catholic Church. Last post by Cornel educated Bhandare and the rest of us
about "Catholic Fascists".
In spite of the lofty writings against Goan casteism, was our "practicing
scholar" really displaying casteism - inflating one's resume by demeaning
another individual (moi) and / or institution?
Kind Regards, GL
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