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WHERE: Foodland Cafe - Miramar Residency - Miramar, Goa
WHEN: December 27, 2007 @ 4:30pm
More info:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-December/066098.html
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Please read my last line in the post below as...
"have to disappoint all anti-caste crusaders and caste apologists on Goanet."
Thank you. -v
----- Original Message -----
From: "Valmiki Faleiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Goanet" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: ... missing the target (to Valmiki)
> Dear Cornel,
>
> I had already promised Mario that my last post (to which you respond)
> would be my very last on that obnoxious subject -- as I think I described
> that subject in my first response on the original thread.
>
> You sure know what obnoxious means?
>
> You are at full liberty to 'definitely' -- or inversely, to indefinitely --
> continue
> to see who's spot on and who is not. Not my problem.
>
> I've said enough of what I had to say. Now, if you, Mervyn or Mario plan to
> rearrange the goalposts to ask me to score a kid goal, by saying what I've
> already said, but in the style you decide I must repeat, I'm not going to
> oblige you guys!
>
> While I must disappoint you, do remember the ramifications of that system
> in India (which includes Goa, Hindus and Christians together, from a common
> heritage), and how such debates as we are currently engaged in, will help
> alleviate or worsen the cause. For your personal knowledge, presuming you
> missed what I said earlier, I will repeat only this much:
>
> Only the proponents of the caste system will, unwittingly or otherwise, rake
> it up
> ad infinitum and ad nauseam, thereby helping perpetuate it. Those genuinely
> against, would in their own little way -- knowing the odds -- try to leave
> this thing
> behind them, by personal example. Not arguing, in futility of course, perhaps
> through
> jaundiced sight. Yes, I was born to a converted Gaud Saraswat Brahmin,
> Catholic,
> background. If you have a problem with that, again, I'm sorry but it's not my
> problem.
> I can only say that if I had an option, I would have chosen and preferred to
> be born
> to a Scheduled Caste or Tribe -- or to a Buddhist family.
>
> Now, if that again warrants more clarifications or explanations, I am afraid
> I will
> have to disappoint all of the caste crusaders and caste apologists on Goanet.
> Amen!
> Rgds, v
>
>
>
> On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 CORNEL DACOSTA wrote :
>>Hi Valmiki
>> I note the exchange between you and Mario and your assertion that, you do
>> not "care a fig for caste". However, I definitely
>> see that, Mario is spot on in his arguement on this issue, but would like to
>> use the excellent yardstick provided by Mervyn Lobo
>> that said: " I must contend that if a person cannot denounce caste in the
>> strongest terms, she/he is essentially just another
>> propogator of the system." Re Mervyn, clearly, you have missed the bull's
>> eye by a significant margin! Will you therefore please
>> shoot another one of your arrows on behalf of the anti-casteists and make
>> sure you do not miss the target?
>> Regards
>> Cornel
>>
>>Valmiki Faleiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Dear Mario,
>>
>>When I said that "I don't give a fig about caste,"
>>it perhaps did not occur to you that what I clearly
>>implied was that considerations based on caste
>>have absolutely no bearing as far as my mind
>>goes....
>
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