Dear Fred,
I remember being more than impressed by your photgraphic portrayal of Goa. At
that time I dropped you a note to congratulate you on such excellent
professional talents. I have continued to be struck by your contributions to
this column and clearly you have also had an impact on a number of others in
this forum.
Have a wonderful birthday and may you have many more
Professor Osborn Viegas
Professor Osborn Viegas AM, MBChB, MD(Birm), FRCOG, FRANZCOG, DA
Professor of Reproductive Health
Monash University> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Goanet Digest, Vol 2,
Issue 1232> To: [email protected]> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 01:23:36 -0800>
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*HAPPY BIRTHDAY FRED!!* (Francis Rodrigues)> 3. Chardi Behaviour nothing to do
with Caste - to Guirimboy> (JoeGoaUk)> 4. Some scenes of the Midnight Mass (Dec
24, 2007) (JoeGoaUk)> 5. Attn : Mr. Editor (Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falc?o)> 6.
Re: *HAPPY BIRTHDAY FRED!!* (Nigel Britto)> 7
. The Best Christmas service. Holy Family Church, Porvorim> (Nigel Britto)> 8.
Re: Bringing Sorpotel to your END! (Kevin Saldanha)> > >
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Message: 1> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:28:33 +0000 (GMT)> From: JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]>> Subject: [Goanet] Mangalore - help needed> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1>
> > We are soon thinking to visit Mangalore for the first time.> > Your help in
needed..> > Tourist spots> Sight seeing> Sea food restaurant (Goan style if
any)> Good Hotels (price range upto Rs.700 per day)> a paid-guide (if any)> Any
other tourist related info> > Thanks for your help.> > We are likely to leave
soon> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > for Goa & NRI related info...>
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ > > For Goan Video Clips>
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa> or> http://is.rediff.com/profilev
isitor.php?mem_id=48419> > > >
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------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:32:00
+0000> From: Francis Rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subject: [Goanet] *HAPPY
BIRTHDAY FRED!!*> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>, <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"> > > > 26 December, 2008.> > Fred Noronha's birthday has
been one of Goanet's best> kept secrets. Until today. We just couldn't let it
pass!> > "MANY, MANY HAPPY RETURNS OF THE DAY, FRED!!"> > Frederick N.J.
Noronha and I became acquainted in the> first days of IRC chat over a dozen
years ago - the> rudimentary Goanet of half a dozen relay-chatters.> > I was
still in Kenya, from whence Herman Carneiro had> recently moved to Boston, and
'founded' Goanet. I still> h
ave the same id - Fred's has evolved exponentially.> > Over the years I ran
into Fred now and then, particularly> when my sons made little waves, and Fred
covered them> for the local media, with the likes of Ethel and Devika.> >
Essentially Fred has evolved into the workaholic network> guru of the Goan
milieu. More, he remains relentlessly> dependable. That, today, remains a
quality beyond measure.> > Yesterday I sent out a small mailer asking about
twenty> regular posters, to say a few words how they saw Fred in> Goan
cyberspace, as a birthday tribute. It is a measure> of the immense regard in
which Fred is held, that within> a few hours, almost all had replied quickly
and succintly.> > If you, who read this, find yourself touched in some way> by
Fred's writings, take a minute to drop a quick word to> Fred online, like these
good souls below. Life's too short!> > Fred, from around the globe, your
contemporaries below> would like to pay tribute to your selflessnes and spirit
.> > Read on. From all of us in Goan cyberspace "Parabens!"> Contact Fred:
Tel:832-2409490 [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > All the best, Fred!> > Francis.> Toronto.>
..........................> > SELMA CARDOSO (USA):> "Frederick hates it when I
call him darling, but he is one".> > CARMO DA CRUZ (USA):> "Fred Noronha is the
Best ! He Keeps all us Goenkars together !> Viva Fred ! Viva ! Viva !"> >
CORNEL DA COSTA (UK):> "What on earth would we do without Fred(erico)? May he
continue> to thrive in 2008".> > SILVIANO C. BARBOSA (CANADA):> "Fred has put
in so much of his time, efforts and creativity into > developing a Goa-centric
resource-base that we can all be proud > to be part of".> > VICTOR
RANGEL-RIBEIRO (USA):> "Frederick Noronha is a catalyst and a gadfly. Both get
society > thinking and moving; both cause good things to happen. And > because
he is always willing to learn, I predict that his sphere > of influence will
increase with every passing year".> > JOHN DE SOUZA (CA
NADA):> "Best Wishes to Frederick Noronha - See You All in Toronto - > 'The
Meeting Place' - July 2008"> > BOSCO D'MELLO (CANADA):> "Rico - The consummate
Goan Networker".> > JOE GOA (UK):> "Fred, always No. 1 (Top 10 posters on the
Goanet). I don't > know what time he goes to sleep as I always see him online >
at odd hours after 2am. Fred, you better take care of yourself > too. I am
grateful for your posts, website links, photos etc".> > JOE LOBO (CANADA):> "As
far as I can recollect , since 1996 Fred Noronha with his > reporting from Goa
on various issues and his pictures which > are definitely worth more than a
thousand words has been a > catalyst in getting goans globally to reach out to
one another > on Goanet".> > BEN ANTAO (CANADA):> "I think Frederick Noronha of
Saligao continues to do his best to > inform expat Goans in cyberspace about
what's going on in Goa. > He started, as I remember, in 1996 and has since
grown in his understanding of the Goan personality. I p
ray that someday > soon he might see the light and put his views on the line
and not > couch them in a neutral manner, like, on the other hand, etc. > He
should give up trying to be all things to all men and women!"> > ROLAND FRANCIS
(CANADA):> "To the man who has spent endless hours of his time giving >
generously to our cyber enlightenment. May his computer > increase his magic".>
> VENANTIUS J. PINTO (USA):> "Fred has evolved into a journalist of the Goan
being, and > continues to fight at as many positions, as the ethos of Goan >
political sociology changes, like some psychedelic chameleon. > He has paid for
it, in no small measure, and has obviously > developed strategies to continue
getting to the heart of the > matter, while retaining a high moral element --
yet delivering > in a compassionate manner. I believe we will see a lot more >
of him in the coming decades".> > OLINDA FERNANDES (CANADA):> "Fred, Pamela -
looking forward to seeing you here in Toronto > July 200
8 - thank you for keeping the netters (nutters) on the > right track all these
years. Compliments of the season".> > GABE MENEZES (UK):> "Noronha is his name,
sitting by the computer is his game; he > seeks it here, he seeks it there.
Goanet would be No-net but > for Fred and the 'Ted' ".> > DR. JOSE COLACO
(BAHAMAS):> "Fred Noronha has been instrumental in keeping Goan cyber >
dialogue active, pertinent and vibrant. His tireless effort and > tremendous
output is responsible for the level of communication > we have now".> > CHRIS
VAZ (USA):> "Thanks to FN for keeping our memories of Goa alive. A very >
unselfish Goenkar who must put in a tremendous amount of > his valuable time to
help keep the Goan experience alive > through his commentary on art, music,
photography. The > content of Goanet would not be the same without FN. Viva!">
> KEVIN SALDANHA (CANADA):> "My memories of growing up in Saligao are fading
but I always > remember the two neighbouring sons of a popular Sali
gaokar > known in those days as Tony Brazileiro because he was an > expat from
Brazil much like my father who returned to the > land of his dreams with his
family from Kenya when he could > have gone anywhere else in theworld.> > Tony
was a flamboyant socialite in Saligao and kept the village > hopping with his
involvement in the club as an organizer and > compere extraordinaire. His mum
was low key, a professional > nurse, who was seldom seen socially. One joke
that sticks in > my mind that I heard Tony crack at a Saligao function over >
35years ago was that when asked why his wife never > accompanied him to the
dances, he was only fulfilling his > mothers advice not to be seen with married
women!!!> > Rico and his younger brother Ricky were playful youngsters > who
were junior to me and never warranted more than a > cursory acknowledgement so
I really never knew them well > as kids although I'm sure they have fonder
memories of my > family as I had 4 sisters!!! I left Goa
in '76 for studies in > Bombay and Bangalore before leaving for Canada in '82
> so had minimal contact with co-villagers.> > It was only when I got back in
touch via the 'net that I realized > that the neigbourhood kid had become a
successful journalist > and via my connection with Herman Carneiro (related
through > my Mum's side) found out that Frederick (as he prefers to be > called
now) was intimately involved with the administration of > GoaNet. Through that
interaction, we communicated over e-mail > and although we may not see eye to
eye on many subjects, have developed a deep respect and appreciation for his
efforts and craft.> > Together with Miguel Braganza, who I knew much better >
growing up as he was involved with Scouts which was a big > part of my Dad's
life, I count him in a circle of intimate friends, > who I make a point of
visiting whenever I am in Goa. He did an > interview with my Dad and helped
promote his book several > years ago. In his social activitie
s, he has promoted free > exchange of information and is an integral part of
the fabric of > the Saligao network on the ground and in cyberspace. We are >
proud to be from HIS village!!!"> > TIM DE MELLO (CANADA):> [Snoop Dogg]> 'Say
it bubba Yeah, yeah yeah> Nate Dizzle, Fred Rizzle> Put the pieces to the
pizzle!'> > "Many a time when Goanet seemed to be floundering or > appeared to
be hijacked by right-wing or other extremist > elements, Fred was always been
the voice of moderation > and toleration. He managed to somehow fit the various
> divergent and often puzzling opinion pieces into a mosaic > that is today the
vibrant forum of Goanet. Well done Fred!"> > >
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------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 05:37:40
+0000 (GMT)> From: JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subject: [Goanet] Chardi Behav
iour nothing to do with Caste - to> Guirimboy> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1>
> [Goanet] Chardi Behaviour nothing to do with Caste - to Guirimboy> > > The
incident (serving different dishes to different people at the same time)> did
not take place half a century ago (as claimed by you). Fyi, not even> quarter
of a century ago.> > And no, the higher class people at the ?Ladin? did not
come from a distant, 80%> came from within the same radius as us and the
remaining within 1.5 km> radius. You don?t invite distant relatives for a
simple ladin.> and fyi, the total of all such people including kids was about
15 and we were> about 20.> It was also obvious that they call us only to sing
'Ladin' as Chardi are not> good at it.> > About your ?Godxem? story, it does
not make any sense at all. Why someone would> ask for ?Xacuti? when every body
else is served ?Godxem??> > Where as in my cas
e, both ?Godxem? and ?Xacuti? served at the same time but> not to all. Some
people got ?Godxem? only where as others got both ?Godxem? and> ?Xakuti? and
that too at the same time and in the same house.> > Apart from above, rest of
the other things which I have mentioned is true or> happening even now.> > One
has to be in Goa to talk about Goa.> > Going by your several posts on the
subject, it appears that you yourself belong> to ?Chardi? caste, perhaps, a low
budget Chardi (as you say).> At Guirim boarding School, you had watery curry
with TWO pieces of meat in it,> remember ?> > > One of the reasons I bring such
things up hoping some people might change their> way of life etc.> > But sadly,
some of them will never change ?Sunneamchi Xempddi vankddi ti> vankddich?> And
to put it in the Indian language ?Kut?te ki dund teddi se teddi rehata hai?> >
People irrespective of their caste, need to grow up.> > e.g. guirimboy, may
need to grow up into a guirimman.> > Let's not always
read all the post with a red pencil in our hands. > Let's make use of our
green pencil too.> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > for Goa & NRI related info...>
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ > > For Goan Video Clips>
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa> or>
http://is.rediff.com/profilevisitor.php?mem_id=48419> > > >
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Message: 4> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:59:37 +0000 (GMT)> From: JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]>> Subject: [Goanet] Some scenes of the Midnight Mass (Dec 24, 2007)>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Content-Type:
text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> > I am sometimes jealous.. (bikareak nosai
bikareachi?).> So clean and beautiful pictures at night.> > I am sometimes,
ashamed of myself, I being a Catholic could not do
the same> job.> > (Readers, me and my camera both suffering from night
blindness. Old age to> blame I suppose).> > I sometimes, feel that there are
others (bikari like me) who are jealous too> and that's why they keep on
picking on the photographer.> > I sometimes, wonder whether they have a 'green
pencil' with them at all.> > As for the last pic , we call..> Pion lans> Pion
tight> Pion papoll> Fest fulloilem> > you can add more..> > Thank you Rajan,
you are the best so far on the GN.> Keep up the good work.> >
========================> [Goanet] Some scenes of the Midnight Mass (Dec 24,
2007)> Rajan P. Parrikar parrikar at yahoo.com > Mon Dec 24 21:15:04 PST 2007 >
> Saw the midnight mass at three places - Saligao, Moira, and > Aldona, in that
order. Some photographs of the celebrations -> >
http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/xmas-saligao.jpg> >
http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/xmas-moira.jpg> >
http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/xmas-aldona-01.jpg> > http://ww
w.parrikar.org/images/samples/xmas-aldona-02.jpg> >
http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/xmas-aldona-03.jpg> >
http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/xmas-aldona-04.jpg> > > > > [EMAIL
PROTECTED]> > for Goa & NRI related info...>
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ > > For Goan Video Clips>
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa> or>
http://is.rediff.com/profilevisitor.php?mem_id=48419> > > >
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------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:33:34
+0530> From: Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falc?o <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subject:
[Goanet] Attn : Mr. Editor> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="Windows-1252"> > > Dear Mr. Editor,> There is an English saying: ?Even
if the Majority agree on an idiotic idea, it is still an idiotic
idea.? > May I ask: Who elected the present Government?. Does that mean the
intellectuals and rational people should shut up? Does it mean that the few who
can think straight should let Goa go to dogs?> What does one mean when saying
anti-Goan? Is tourism the only carrot the government knows to dangle at Goans.
Have all Goans turned to rabbits? Is looting Goa and amassing wealth not
anti-Goan? Depriving the future generation of Goans their rightful land is not
anti-Goan.> Who is setting a house on fire because of a rat? Is a rat a pest or
not? Is it just one rat or how many of them have we elected to ruin our
reserves? And how many of their kin are there with them?> What does one mean by
saying ?bhatkar mentality?? Does the Mundkar Act apply to the elected
representatives in the government and give them the right of ?mundkar? and
ownership of all the land of Goa, so they can sell clandestinely or do whatever
they want with it? Does it forfeit the right of true Goans to prot
ect their land and future generation?> Remember, rats are irrational animals,
they go by instinct. They are all scared of rational animals. They only attack
when threatened and cornered.> regards,> > Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falc?o> Doha
- Qatar> > > > Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falc?o. M.B.,B.S.>
****************************************> MARG?O ? GOA. Tel : 91.832 . 2703
100.> QATAR. tel : 974.458 6326.>
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------------------------------> > Message: 6> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:41:46
+0530> From: "Nigel Britto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subject: Re: [Goanet] *HAPPY
BIRTHDAY FRED!!*> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!">
<[email protected]>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID:> <99a1a15a0712260011o3683
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> > Many Happy
Returns of the day, FN!> I guess over half of us would be ignorant about what's
happening around, if> not for you!> God Bless! And thanks for introducing me to
the writing field!> > Nigel Britto> > On Dec 26, 2007 1:02 PM, Francis
Rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > >> >> > 26 December, 2008.> >> > Fred
Noronha's birthday has been one of Goanet's best> > kept secrets. Until today.
We just couldn't let it pass!> >> > "MANY, MANY HAPPY RETURNS OF THE DAY,
FRED!!"> >> > Frederick N.J. Noronha and I became acquainted in the> > first
days of IRC chat over a dozen years ago - the> > rudimentary Goanet of half a
dozen relay-chatters.> >> > I was still in Kenya, from whence Herman Carneiro
had> > recently moved to Boston, and 'founded' Goanet. I still> > have the same
id - Fred's has evolved exponentially.> >> > Over the years I ran into Fred now
and then, particularly> > whe
n my sons made little waves, and Fred covered them> > for the local media,
with the likes of Ethel and Devika.> >> > Essentially Fred has evolved into the
workaholic network> > guru of the Goan milieu. More, he remains relentlessly> >
dependable. That, today, remains a quality beyond measure.> >> > Yesterday I
sent out a small mailer asking about twenty> > regular posters, to say a few
words how they saw Fred in> > Goan cyberspace, as a birthday tribute. It is a
measure> > of the immense regard in which Fred is held, that within> > a few
hours, almost all had replied quickly and succintly.> >> > If you, who read
this, find yourself touched in some way> > by Fred's writings, take a minute to
drop a quick word to> > Fred online, like these good souls below. Life's too
short!> >> > Fred, from around the globe, your contemporaries below> > would
like to pay tribute to your selflessnes and spirit.> >> > Read on. From all of
us in Goan cyberspace "Parabens!"> > Contact Fred: Tel:8
32-2409490 [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > All the best, Fred!> >> > Francis.> >
Toronto.> > ..........................> >> > SELMA CARDOSO (USA):> > "Frederick
hates it when I call him darling, but he is one".> >> > CARMO DA CRUZ (USA):> >
"Fred Noronha is the Best ! He Keeps all us Goenkars together !> > Viva Fred !
Viva ! Viva !"> >> > CORNEL DA COSTA (UK):> > "What on earth would we do
without Fred(erico)? May he continue> > to thrive in 2008".> >> > SILVIANO C.
BARBOSA (CANADA):> > "Fred has put in so much of his time, efforts and
creativity into> > developing a Goa-centric resource-base that we can all be
proud> > to be part of".> >> > VICTOR RANGEL-RIBEIRO (USA):> > "Frederick
Noronha is a catalyst and a gadfly. Both get society> > thinking and moving;
both cause good things to happen. And> > because he is always willing to learn,
I predict that his sphere> > of influence will increase with every passing
year".> >> > JOHN DE SOUZA (CANADA):> > "Best Wishes to Frederi
ck Noronha - See You All in Toronto -> > 'The Meeting Place' - July 2008"> >>
> BOSCO D'MELLO (CANADA):> > "Rico - The consummate Goan Networker".> >> > JOE
GOA (UK):> > "Fred, always No. 1 (Top 10 posters on the Goanet). I don't> >
know what time he goes to sleep as I always see him online> > at odd hours
after 2am. Fred, you better take care of yourself> > too. I am grateful for
your posts, website links, photos etc".> >> > JOE LOBO (CANADA):> > "As far as
I can recollect , since 1996 Fred Noronha with his> > reporting from Goa on
various issues and his pictures which> > are definitely worth more than a
thousand words has been a> > catalyst in getting goans globally to reach out to
one another> > on Goanet".> >> > BEN ANTAO (CANADA):> > "I think Frederick
Noronha of Saligao continues to do his best to> > inform expat Goans in
cyberspace about what's going on in Goa.> > He started, as I remember, in 1996
and has since grown in his> > understanding of the Goan personality. I
pray that someday> > soon he might see the light and put his views on the
line and not> > couch them in a neutral manner, like, on the other hand, etc.>
> He should give up trying to be all things to all men and women!"> >> > ROLAND
FRANCIS (CANADA):> > "To the man who has spent endless hours of his time
giving> > generously to our cyber enlightenment. May his computer> > increase
his magic".> >> > VENANTIUS J. PINTO (USA):> > "Fred has evolved into a
journalist of the Goan being, and> > continues to fight at as many positions,
as the ethos of Goan> > political sociology changes, like some psychedelic
chameleon.> > He has paid for it, in no small measure, and has obviously> >
developed strategies to continue getting to the heart of the> > matter, while
retaining a high moral element -- yet delivering> > in a compassionate manner.
I believe we will see a lot more> > of him in the coming decades".> >> > OLINDA
FERNANDES (CANADA):> > "Fred, Pamela - looking forward to seeing y
ou here in Toronto> > July 2008 - thank you for keeping the netters (nutters)
on the> > right track all these years. Compliments of the season".> >> > GABE
MENEZES (UK):> > "Noronha is his name, sitting by the computer is his game; he>
> seeks it here, he seeks it there. Goanet would be No-net but> > for Fred and
the 'Ted' ".> >> > DR. JOSE COLACO (BAHAMAS):> > "Fred Noronha has been
instrumental in keeping Goan cyber> > dialogue active, pertinent and vibrant.
His tireless effort and> > tremendous output is responsible for the level of
communication> > we have now".> >> > CHRIS VAZ (USA):> > "Thanks to FN for
keeping our memories of Goa alive. A very> > unselfish Goenkar who must put in
a tremendous amount of> > his valuable time to help keep the Goan experience
alive> > through his commentary on art, music, photography. The> > content of
Goanet would not be the same without FN. Viva!"> >> > KEVIN SALDANHA (CANADA):>
> "My memories of growing up in Saligao are fading but I a
lways> > remember the two neighbouring sons of a popular Saligaokar> > known
in those days as Tony Brazileiro because he was an> > expat from Brazil much
like my father who returned to the> > land of his dreams with his family from
Kenya when he could> > have gone anywhere else in theworld.> >> > Tony was a
flamboyant socialite in Saligao and kept the village> > hopping with his
involvement in the club as an organizer and> > compere extraordinaire. His mum
was low key, a professional> > nurse, who was seldom seen socially. One joke
that sticks in> > my mind that I heard Tony crack at a Saligao function over> >
35years ago was that when asked why his wife never> > accompanied him to the
dances, he was only fulfilling his> > mothers advice not to be seen with
married women!!!> >> > Rico and his younger brother Ricky were playful
youngsters> > who were junior to me and never warranted more than a> > cursory
acknowledgement so I really never knew them well> > as kids although I'
m sure they have fonder memories of my> > family as I had 4 sisters!!! I left
Goa in '76 for studies in> > Bombay and Bangalore before leaving for Canada in
'82> > so had minimal contact with co-villagers.> >> > It was only when I got
back in touch via the 'net that I realized> > that the neigbourhood kid had
become a successful journalist> > and via my connection with Herman Carneiro
(related through> > my Mum's side) found out that Frederick (as he prefers to
be> > called now) was intimately involved with the administration of> > GoaNet.
Through that interaction, we communicated over e-mail> > and although we may
not see eye to eye on many subjects, have developed a> > deep respect and
appreciation for his efforts and craft.> >> > Together with Miguel Braganza,
who I knew much better> > growing up as he was involved with Scouts which was a
big> > part of my Dad's life, I count him in a circle of intimate friends,> >
who I make a point of visiting whenever I am in Goa. He d
id an> > interview with my Dad and helped promote his book several> > years
ago. In his social activities, he has promoted free> > exchange of information
and is an integral part of the fabric of> > the Saligao network on the ground
and in cyberspace. We are> > proud to be from HIS village!!!"> >> > TIM DE
MELLO (CANADA):> > [Snoop Dogg]> > 'Say it bubba Yeah, yeah yeah> > Nate
Dizzle, Fred Rizzle> > Put the pieces to the pizzle!'> >> > "Many a time when
Goanet seemed to be floundering or> > appeared to be hijacked by right-wing or
other extremist> > elements, Fred was always been the voice of moderation> >
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> > Peace and Love...> > Nigel> > > ------------------------------> > Message:
> > 7> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:49:42 +0530> From: "Nigel Britto" <[EMAIL
> > PROTECTED]>> Subject: [Goanet] The Best Christmas service. Holy Family
> > Church,> Porvorim> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Goa's premiere mailing list,
> > estb. 1994!"> <[email protected]>> Message-ID:> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> > A few years ago, most
> > people would avoid going to the erstwhile Holy Family> Chapel, many of
> > them preferring the more flamboyant service at Don Bosco's,> Panaji. Even
> > today, we see many people ditching their parishes and flocking> to these
> > high-profile services, services that are nice worship sessions but>
> > attended by people attired more suitably for a fashion show than for a>
> > Church. Few of the other places that are included in this category
> > include> Loyola's, Margao, and Raj Bhavan, Dona Paula. Don't get me wrong
> > here.
I> love Loyola's and Don Bosco's, but detest the pseudo-spiritual approach>
that's rampant, and especially evident during the ramp-walk to receive what>
Catholics consider the Body of Christ.> > Considering the fact that I've
finally managed to make acquaintance with a> few of my fellow-Porvorim-ites,
many of whom I (mistakenly) previously> considered snobs, I ditched the usual
Midnight service at the Holy Cross> Chapel opposite my house for that at the
newly elevated Church to which my> Chapel is affiliated. My initial thought was
to merely take a moonlit> exterior overview of the Holy Family Church. I've
been playing the> outstanding catholic for years, not necessarily at midnight
but at more> convenient times of the day as well. Having left the house at
10:28pm, it> took 3 minutes to complete the drive to Church. As I reached, I
found myself> bound by logic to enter, influenced maybe by the rare fact that I
was well> in time, or maybe subtle fear that I may be baked alive
, not an unlikely> possibility, taking into account my dark blue shirt, my
black suit, and the> Global warming phenomena.> > The Holy Family Church was
well-illuminated and the newly asphalted parking> lot was actually kinda
bright. Justifiably so, because what could be worse> than car-crashes inside
the compound of the House of God on Christmas day?> The corridors outside the
Church were lined with Stars, walking past them> being a nightmarish
experience, strangely unfamiliar to my unobservant eyes.> The Shephard was
waiting outside as the flock came in, one by one, greeting> and welcoming them.
When I entered the great sanctuary, it was brightly lit,> with the smiles of
parishioners shining brighter than the electric lights> above them. At 10:37pm,
the Church was almost full, not unexpectedly,> considering a quarter of the
Church was 'reserved'.> > The youth choir was barely setting up, with random
sounds of 'check, check'> emanating from the speakers, as well as choir mem
bers walking hurriedly> around, obviously either busy or harrowed after a long
day of work and> preparation. But all apprehensive thoughts flew out of the
open windows when> I saw Jazz gurus Braz Gonsalves and Mr.President Savio
Martires lined up on> the Saxophone and Keyboard respectively, preparing to
take Christmas for a> long jazzy ride. And indeed when the, "Spiritual
preparation to usher in the> Birth of our Savior", started,all those who were
previously sleepy seemed to> jerk out of their dreamy trance and stared at the
choir with attention> that's normally associated with people taking a math
exam.> > The whole concept of 'Spiritual preparation' was a well-thought-out
one> indeed, with Blossom Rodrigues doing the compering, and doing it well,
might> I add.. The choir kicked off their hypnotic performance with the
timeless> carol, Do you see what I see. It was a memorable pre-mass service
with the> obviously well-trained choir dishing out hit after hit, all of them> e
xceptionally well presented, voices and instruments in close-to-perfect>
harmony. The choral performance was only suspended for 5 minutes when Sonia>
Saigal sang a solo, taking the congregation by storm. (I've forgotten the> name
of the song). As the 'Spiritual preparation' proceeded, the voices in> the
choir just got better and better, with the perfect synchronization by> the
masters on keyboard and saxophone respectively only adding to the joy of> the
Season.> > I guess enough of wordplay now. Straight to the point. The choir
was> sensational, and their focussed performance for almost 2 hours was
nothing> short of spellbinding. Personally, this is the best youth choir I've
ever> heard. Three cheers to Savio, Uncle Braz, Sergio, Sylvester, Joanne,>
Juanita, Genevieve, Louella, Vian, Gwyn, Irwin, Louis, Ryan, Russel, Raisa,>
Nadia and the others whose names I don't know/have forgotten. Seven priests>
con-celebrated the mass, 6 clad with gold and 1 with Silver. The pulpit was
> supplied by Fr.Tony Lopez, Superior General of the Pilar Fathers, who>
> delivered a fiery and spirited homily about the superficial preparations
> for> Christmas we all are used to. He focussed on the need for us to get the
> real> picture, and subtly put across the pertinent question whether do we
> know or> not whom Christmas is all about. He spoke at length about and
> almost> questioned the significance of decorations, sweets and dances, if
> our> personal spiritual preparations are not in place. Offertory was fairly>
> strange, with the items that were offered ranging right from Stars to>
> Christmas sweets. A woolen shawl was also offered, and the announcer said,>
> "On this cold December night....." An inconvenient truth is that December
> is> no longer as cold as it used to be. Don't believe me? Ask Al Gore. Or
> ask> me.> > Communinion took a reasonably long time, considering the fact
> that the> congregation was a microcosm of the population in India.> >
> Suddenly, the lights were faili
ng. There was a procession. It was getting> dark. There were eerie chords
being played. It was getting dark. There was> incense. It was getting darker.
There were many more candles than we> normally saw at church. Darkness reigned,
briefly. A line of people walked> in, holding the candles. At first they looked
like members of the Bohemian> club, but turned out to be members of the Parish
Youth, and a few others who> joined the candlelight ceremony. They went and
stood at the altar, with the> candles, as the Saxophonist played the
introduction of O Holy Night. The> introduction gave way to a duet by Sergio
and Sylvester. Don't really know> who sang what part since 12 candles seemed
insufficient to see what was> happening. The duet was beautifully done. The
stars were, indeed, brightly> shining.> > Then the lights came on again.> >
Before the final blessing, the Parish Priest came up and thanked all the>
people who helped in making this mass a success. And he also advised the>
congregation to fellowship with one another before going home. Some Cafes>
sponsored the coffee and cake. A politician sponsored the crib, which made> me
think of the irony.> > The choir concluded the mass by singing Joy to the
World. That was the end> of one of the best Midnight services I have been for
.> > After mass, there was chaos. The chaos that is inevitable when around a>
thousand people decide to wish one another simultaneously! Oh the>
probabilities involved would be a mathematicians delight.> > Everyone hung
around for a bit, although whether that was voluntary or they> were just
following the Parish Priests' instructions, I do not know :-)> > Then I went
home...> > Disclaimer: This is just a personal account of the midnight service.
If> there are any discrepancies, they are unintentional. If you have
differences> with my opinions, it's ok, because the Consitution guarantees my
freedom of> expression, and your freedom of thought and speech. Merry
Christmas> ever
yone. Another disclaimer: I have nothing against Don Bosco's and> Loyola's.
Many priests from those societies are indeed the best preachers.> My only
grudge is the kinda people that frequent those places. But then, I> guess Jesus
died for all. Have a blessed and Christ-filled CHRIST-mas, and> if you read
this after the 25th, Compliments of the Season.> > Truth Liberates> Nigel
Britto> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 8> Date: Wed, 26 Dec
2007 03:50:17 -0500> From: "Kevin Saldanha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subject: Re:
[Goanet] Bringing Sorpotel to your END!> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID:>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> > Dear
John,> > as a vegetarian, I had great fun using this verse as a 'grace after>
[Christmas] meal' ditty sung in solemn style (when he could keep a> straight
face) by my brother-in-law who is an accomplished choir> master.> > We couldn't
use it before the meal for o
bvious reasons... we were> actually having SORPOTEL!!!> > Thank you, Miguel,
for sharing this gem. I enjoyed it tremendously.> > Kevin Saldanha>
Mississauga, ON.> ====================> > Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 14:46:27 +0000
(GMT)> From: John DSouza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > Dear friends,> > I DO NOT see
any humour in bringing our national and> well-loved dish into ridicule. I do
not speak for the> readers but I think such material should not grace the> the
airwaves of cyberspace through Goanet.> > Warm regards,> > John F.D'Souza> >
--- Goanet Reader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > These lines of verse, the
origin of which are> > unclear, surfaced> > recently via the St Mary's
GreenChillies network at> >
[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stmarysgirlsmapusa/]> >> > VIVA LA SORPOTEL> >>
> Bringing Sorpotel to your END!> > > End of Goanet Digest, Vol 2, Issue 1232>
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