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Dear Kamalaksh,
There is a lot of specific information that a Goan may not know. And
yes one could do some research. But, Goanet also functions as just
that -- a conduit to general information/ sort of research base that
would otherwise require a trip to Goa. It would be different if one is
scholarly enough, or has resources, or maintain and create
dictionaries containing specific information. (Business opportunity
for historians, writers to create dictionaries, as the Japanese do).
So there is only so much a Goan may know about ones fellow Hindu
brethren or even about ones own ancestry. This is a small tragedy, but
a parcel of our reality.
Upon looking at Reena's language, "And here I always thought Chari was
a Tamilian!" -- it in no way explicitly rejects that Chari is not a
surname belonging to the Goan soil. To the contrary, and to my
understanding (reading or misreading) it evokes surprise, as in
exuberance at being aware that Chari could also be a Goan surname; an
awareness as supported by "And here I always thought..." She is
opening herself up here -- how such exclamations are recived is
another matter. Perhaps she could have framed it as, " I am curious to
know (OR Please could you tell me) what the antecedents of the surname
Chari (or some other surname)are?" There is however every possibility
that even a seemingly straight forward question like this could elicit
an untoward or aggrieved response. All one can do is to consider
whether the intent is genuine; is the person really mocking and
proceed accordingly as you did in your second paragraph. The
information incidentally is helpful. I have a friend the pianist
Madhav Chari, and was aware though not in any specifics that there is
more to that surname, as is the case with other surnames too.
In modernity the concept of an apology is the accepted form of
redress. Its true that in the hierarchy of power, class, and privilege
one is forced to swallow an apology or one categorically rejects it.
They are not always genuine; merely "luti lavpacheo korneo/ process of
applying spit to erase or subvert said deed OR lip giving a backhand
lip service). Besides, regarding anyone as heroes, or heroines in such
situations is quite pathetic; at the most one could consider that said
person has owned up or confessed. We could -- based on the
excessiveness of the error, or insult be the keepers of memory --
particularly if one is unrealiable or using the Net as an addictive
fic. It is true that many individuals get excited with the mere
utterance of an apology. But once we attempt to realize the
"hetu/karand" behind a question, or an exclamation, or just a straight
statement -- we protect ourselves from unwarranted hurt. But it is up
to us to make sure of an individuals intent, and remind those who
stray too often from basic civility that it is not acceptable, and
that theirs is a shallow apology. And if need be come down upon them
as a ton of bricks, particularly when it will progress our thoughts
and resolve feelings.
Other than this, I can only speculate how a person, say you, Kamalaksh
may be feeling.
venantius
> From: "Kamalaksh Chari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] An Open Letter To Rajan
> Reena Martins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>
> Kamalaksh Chari wrote:
> Well I must say one must be a Goan to identify Goan surnames.
>
> And here I always thought Chari was a Tamilian!
> Reena
>
> RESPONSE:
> The problem with you people(RKN, Reena & likeminded co.) is that you click
> on send button before veryfying the facts about your posts & when you know
> tou made a big mistake you people HONESTLY admit it, & then you are
> applauded for admitting that you made an mistake and you become Heroes or
> Heroines on goanet.
> Secondly it is also because lack of knowledge about Goan culture, history,
> etc due to which you tend to make statements & predictions which are totally
> false. This inturn raises questions, queries, doubts in the minds of people
> on goanet, creating the endless lists of unnecessary posts.
> Regarding Chari community, well it is spread all over India not only
> restricted to particular region or state. In Mharashtra, Gujarat, we use
> Sutar or Panchal as our surnames. In other parts Vishwakarma is used as
> surname, and other surnames in rest of India. In Madras(or TN or Chennai or
> south India) we are known by Chari surname. So that might have created a
> doubt in your mind that Chari's are Tamilian. Any ways from next time
> onwards please verify your statements in your posts before clicking on send
> button.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kamalaksh
