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Thu Mar 13 21:47:12 PDT 2008
Sat Mar 15 17:57:41 PDT 2008, and
Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:38:29 -0400
From: "Venantius Pinto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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There are many sides to this popularity consensus, which is a consensus to
begin with. But should Indians even care, and who are those that do concern
themselves with such pronouncements in the media.
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Mario responds:
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Venantius, not to be picky, but one scientific poll is just a statistical
snapshot of opinion, not necessarily a consensus. Properly designed and
conducted and repeated consistently, it can track a statistical trend, may
identify a consensus, and form a valid tool that can be used in decisionmaking.
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Should Indians care of what Americans think about it? Of course they should,
because India has developed such a close working relationship with the US and
its enormous economy where much of the demand for India's services and
brain-power comes from. Indians should be delighted at their growing
popularity in the US because it shows a reciprocation - similar polls have
shown that the US is more popular in India than in many other countries.
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Venantius wrote:
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There are good sides to India, but the USA is comfortable with an India which
is assiduously following its lead on many issues, unlike other countries less
than a fifth of our size. We do not berate the US (and certainly not publicly)
on anything.
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Mario responds:
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The communists who are part of the ruling coalition in India are constantly
berating the US publicly. The Indian government has no plausible reason to do
so. I'm sure they communicate on all matters of interest.
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India is following the US lead primarily in freeing up its economy from the
millstone of extreme socialism to the benefit of both countries. India offers
the US a huge potential market for its own mature economy and the slower growth
in its traditional mature foreign markets. A closer working relation ship is a
win-win situation for both.
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The reason that Indians have been so successful within the highly competitive
US economy is because of the natural affinity of most Indians for a free
economy, where producing results and personal achievements speak louder than
anything else. You must have noticed by now that Indians are very competitive
and successful in the US and consequently there is growing respect for India
and Indians.
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As a reflection of this, when I meet a Caucasian American for the first time
today, within five minutes he or she are trying to impress ME with the other
Indians they know - who are invariably a respected doctor or engineer, a top
student or brilliant professor, an IT professional, a small or large
businessman or woman, more recently a Catholic priest or a nun, etc., etc.,
etc. Quite a change from 37 years ago when the conversation tended towards the
weather and snake charmers and elephants and tigers.
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India and the US have a lot in common as far as being two beacons of freedom
and diversity and tolerance for the most part, with growing economic ties based
on common interests and needs and a shared opposition to Islamist fascism which
has targeted India since its inception. India has survived 50 wasted years of
mindless Fabian socialism and pecksniffian political philosophies during its
formative years, which resulted in a massive brain drain that benefited the US
tremendously. Now, with the heavy yoke of socialism partially lifted, India is
demonstrating the economic growth that it was always capable of, and the US has
taken due note, believe me.
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Reflecting the growing affinity, President Bush offered India a nuclear
arrangement that would considerably enhance India's capabilities in nuclear
generated electric power. Guess who is standing in the way - the same
communists who were substantially responsible for India's economic malaise
before Manmohan Singh began the process of liberalization - India's euphemism
for shedding extreme socialism.
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Venantius wrote:
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If an F-16 "strayed" over India, it would certainly not be sent back in crates
as the Chinese did. But despite such acts of belligerence and a fascinating
insult to itself,they still love the Chinese. Why -- undoubtedly for what China
is willing to do to satiate the bellies of capitalism, their own and that of
the USA.
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Mario observes:
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China and the US used to be mortal enemies during the Cold War. The US and
China fought each other in both Korea and VietNam. Besides, the US has
guaranteed the freedom and autonomy of democratic Taiwan, which China claims
for itself and would try and annex by force if it were not for the US.
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Subsequently the Chinese have realized the economic folly of communism, and
decided to follow a semi-capitalist model which is raising the standard of
living in China. China is providing inexpensive quality products to the US
marketplace which has served to keep inflation low for the American consumer.
This is an example of business interests creating a win-win situation for both.
Now China has a somewhat vested interest in the US economy on which it depends
for a large share of its own economy.
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Americans don't "love" and admire the Chinese across the board in the
conventional sense. They have little in common in many areas. However, their
growing working relationship based on common business interests has cooled the
hostility in the other areas. This is a good thing. As an example of this,
China played a key role in getting N. Korea to give up its nuclear ambitions,
which will benefit that miserable backwater of failed communism in the years
ahead.
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"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who
understands Marx." Paraphrasing Ronald Reagan.
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