Unfortunately, the preponderance of science, regulation and money is betting 
against Mario's outmoded beliefs. I think president Bush forgot to send Mario a 
personal memo that he too now accepts global warming as fact. Unfortunately, he 
has shown no leadership qualities in coming up with strategies on how to fight 
it. Fortunately, regardless of who replaces him, we can expect dramatic changes 
in US policy in a few months from now.
   
  But, why wait for this unpopular US administration to act? America's most 
populous states, covering over 50% of the US population have already passed 
legislation mandating a switch to clean energy sources - typically in the range 
of 20% of total capacity by 2020. This itself is a source of great opportunity 
for clean-tech companies around the globe. Besides the US, the EU, and 
specially Germany have been making a monumental push into clean energy. Germany 
for example by itself now accounts for around 50% of the world's solar energy 
production. These factors have contributed to the clean energy sector having an 
annual compounded growth rate of between 30-70% for the last decade.  
Recession? What recession? If you wish to ignore the science of global warming 
that is not a big deal. If you wish to ignore the money that is being made in 
this sector, stupid you.
   
  When one looks at specific energy sources, Geo-thermal, thermal solar and 
wind are pretty much competitive to fossil fuel based electricity sources. 
Longer term, we can expect photo-voltaics to become the pre-eminent source of 
energy as a result of continued cost reductions via large scale production, 
higher conversion efficiencies via technological improvements as well as higher 
costs for fossil fuels due to inevitable imposition of some form of carbon 
taxes that will become necessary to capture the hidden costs of these fuels. 
Another clean(er) energy source is cellusoic ethanol and should not be confused 
with the US Administrations misguided Ethanol fuels program-  more on that 
below. Nuclear, though carbon free in theory, is not clean tech – not until it 
figures out how to handle the issue of radioactive waste disposal. Over the 
past few years, a large chunk of the world's VC money and definitely the 
largest share in Silicon Valley, has not been going into IT or
 bio-tech, but into clean energy. 
   
  Mario blindly bleats out the US administration's rhetoric that China and 
India are not doing enough to address their carbon footprints. This is false. 
First of all, both nations have pledged to meet the same per capita emissions 
standards that will be established by the developed nations. Currently, they 
are far below these levels, which is why Kyoto does not even apply to them.  
   
  Secondly, like many US states as well as many in the EU, India and China are 
also targeting around 20% of their electricity production from clean sources by 
the year 2020. Furthermore, they are backing it up with hard money. The result 
is a huge explosion in clean energy investment in these countries. Suzlon - an 
Indian company is amongst the top 4 largest wind energy companies in the world. 
 In the solar space, we are seeing massive ramp ups by Signet Solar and Moser 
Baer. Signet for example, is setting up a 500MW/yr solar plant in Chennai, 
which is one of the largest in the world.
   
  It is interesting that while the ignorants in the global cooling camp have 
failed to see the writing on the wall, even some oil producing nations are 
accepting a post carbon future as fate accompli. The UAE for example, is 
building a whole new zero carbon city in Masdar. Maybe this is just an attempt 
at green washing itself to improve its image, but what cannot be denied is that 
it will make significant investments in carbon sequestering technology that 
will enable it to convert its "dirty fossil" fuels to clean H2 based fuels. 
Whether this makes economic sense is still TBD, but the fact that a major oil 
producing nation is experimenting with a post carbon future is very notable by 
itself.
   
  It is not that the current US administration is not interested in investing 
in energy - it just seems to have an abhorrence for clean energy for 
ideological or political reasons. For example, it recently pledged to veto a 
house/senate  bill that would have eliminated $18 billion in subsidies for the 
oil companies. Likewise, in an era of high commodity prices, it has pushed 
through an inane Ethanol fuel program, which amounts to a large subsidy for 
Agribusiness for producing high cost corn ethanol, while ignoring the fact that 
significantly greener and cheaper sugar cane based ethanol can be obtained from 
Brazil. It seems that the US administration has no issues in supporting 
undesirable regimes in countries like Chavez’s Venezuela by freely importing 
their oil, but has issues in importing ethanol from friendly nations like 
Brazil just because it would hurt some powerful industrial lobby in the US. One 
reason why food prices have been going up around the world is because
 US farmers have been switching production from food grains to corn for fuel, 
thanks to large and very expensive federal government subsidies here. In 
India’s case, some work is also going into bio-fuels (Jathopra), but for it to 
be really competitive (in India or anywhere else in the world for that matter), 
progress needs to be made in industrial scale cellusoic production technology.

   
  Marlon
  
Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  The Navhind Times article is obviously bogus from two
opposing points of view. From my side this is a
one-sided biased article from a publication that has
censored any mention of the scientific opposing point
of view. Based on Santosh's posts he should consider
it worthless because it was not written by a scientist
but by a news reporter who is also an ideologue.
>
However, here is some information based on which YOU
can quiz Drs. Rosario-Gomes and Goes.
>
Since you live in Toronto, let's start with the letter
written to your Prime Minister by sixty scientists who
were not afraid to list their names:
>
http://www.lavoisier.com.au/papers/articles/canadianPMletter06.html
>

More importantly, ask them if they believe that the
Kyoto Protocols, in which every less developed country
including India and China is exempted from the
requirements, will do anything to change whatever is
going on other than cause massive economic disruption
in the western economies.
>



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