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Mario Miranda Festival, July 24-26, 2008 Old GMC Building http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-July/077732.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Re: From: Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] The Celina Jaitley Fracas MG:Who the heck is Shyam Benegal? Me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shyam_Benegal MG: I am suggesting that either you and your friends buy every property put up for sale or someone who can afford to is going to do so. That's life in modern India. What are you complaining about? I have no idea whether you appreciate Goa or not. You certainly oppose its economic development. Me: If economic opportunity means buying up or selling out like a corner store bania, count me out, Sir, aum niz Goenkar! MG: You may not know how to snarl or wield a chappal, but you all are pretty good at using the crab mentality to tear people down - as illustrated by your characterization of the seller to Celina as a "black sheep". Perhaps, rather than snarl and wield chappals it may behoove you all to elect honest politicians so that there will be no more "black" and "white" money. BTW, I bought a property in Goa recently and there was no mention of "black" or "white" money. I used "green" money in the transaction:-)) Me: Tearing people down? Hardly. Black sheep was probably a mild characterization. A study of Goan property deals will probably startle you. I can give you instances where properties in Goa have been sold by <<black sheep>> by declaring some of the heirs as dead when they are still alive and kicking. But then you would call this economic opportunity. BTW, have you had a thorough title search of that property that you bought with your greenbacks? I could recommend a few honest Goan lawyers of the old school who believe in old values. MG: Goa is going to the dogs because of both - some old Goans and some new Goans. Other old Goans and new Goans are helping it to boom economically. The trick is to know the difference. A Goan, old or new, who bribes an official and gets a permit to build an ugly structure that does not fit its environment defaces Goa. Someone like Celina, who likes Goa enough to buy and re-furbish an old Goan house helps Goa. Why don't you walk over to Shyam Benagal's house the next time he's there and tell him precisely whom to call. Personally, I would go ask Celina to make the call, but then I'm not a Moidekar:-)) Me: If you are so certain about Celina's motivations, why don't you call her up and ask her to tear down that illegal 2 metre compound wall? Is that her and your idea of refurbishing a house? That you are not a Moidekar doesn't prevent you to make that call for which we Moidekars would be eternally grateful to you, or is it simply that you do not come within her social reach? (As a point of information, S.B. has sold the property) MG:If you have been in Goa all that time, then you have been part of the problem, which means Goans who did not elect honest politicians and allowed corruption in Goa to flourish. Besides, based on your complaints, it seems that you have not taken advantage of so many opportunities over all those years that created the economic vacuum that non-Goans had to fill. Economic vacuums work just like the physical kind - something or someone fills them as soon as possible. Me: We Goans, who live in Goa, are most assuredly not the problem, but the real problem is the NRI Goans like you who preach to us about what we should do or not do and how we should run our lives. It is extremely easy to sit in your ivory tower and pontificate. Live in Goa 24X7, then tell us what to do. I am glad that you are one New Goan, as you call yourself, who has made capital of the economic opportunity that Goa has presented. Just remember one dictum, that absentee landlords cannot call the shots. And while you are away, don't be surprised if a snarling neo-Goan has occupied your property and is giving you the one finger salute. Now that would be called filling in the vacuum! Mog assundi, Tony -- Tony de Sa Ph: +91 832 2470148 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] M: +91 9975 162 897 ----------------------------------------------------------- 'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' Edmund Burke. ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- **** http://www.GOANET.org **** --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tri Continental Film Festival 2008 July 25 - 30, 2008 Goa, India http://www.moviesgoa.org/page/tri_continental/ http://www.moviesgoa.org/tricon/schedule_2008.pdf ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
