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Mario Miranda Festival, July 24-26, 2008 Old GMC Building http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-July/077732.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Mr Eduardo Faleiro is reported as having referred to the following: In 1956 an eminent Portuguese geographer, Orlando Ribeiro led a team of scholars to study Goan society and submitted a report of his findings to Prime minister Dr Oliveira Salazar. His report stated that Goa was the least Portuguese in its cultural expression even less than Guine-Bissau. It also said that there were cultured persons everywhere in Goa with no trace of rudeness, so common among the rural folk of Portugal. 2008/7/25 Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can person understand what this chap Faleiro is talking? Does it make sense? Faleiro stop this bharati gibberish. Goans will not be fooled by your talks. jc's comment: There are several points: (1) Mr. Faleiro may have been accurately quoting Orlando Ribeiro. (2) But ..... what exactly was Orlando Ribeiro talking about when he referred to "Portuguese in it's cultural expression"? (3) And ...was Mr. Faleiro justified in using Orlando Ribeiro? (4) Was Orlando Ribeiro justified in reaching his 'quoted' conclusion.? (5) One question which may be asked (hypothetically) of 'Mr Orlando Ribeiro' is the following IF "there were cultured persons everywhere in Goa with no trace of rudeness" WHY did it change so soon after the Portuguese left? OR ...IS it still that way in 2008? (6) Mr. Eduardo Faleiro is a politician. He is entitled to use quotes selectively without having to analyse what he is quoting. (7) I suggest that we might wish to review the following from Orlando Ribeiro's travels and ask ourselves. Look at the picture from Sanguem. Is that representative of Goa in 1955? Look at the pictures from Guinea-Bissau. Look carefully at the words "translator'. look at the 'evidence' of Portuguese influence from the pictures. As they say ....A picture is worth a million words. As the great Velcar Xri Kon Fu Shius said: Have mouth will talk! jc http://www.orlando-ribeiro.info/en/viagens/guine/guine.htm#slideshow http://www.orlando-ribeiro.info/en/viagens/goa/goa.htm Goa, Damão and Diu "The Old Conquests [ ...]. In this landscape, marked by the signs of a foreign religion - churches, chapels on top of the hills, calvary and other little sanctuaries along the pathways, in fields and by the fountains - remain the most strong and perdurable traits of the Portuguese influence." (Geografia da Expansão Portuguesa, 1961, p. 21) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- **** http://www.GOANET.org **** --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tri Continental Film Festival 2008 July 25 - 30, 2008 Goa, India http://www.moviesgoa.org/page/tri_continental/ http://www.moviesgoa.org/tricon/schedule_2008.pdf ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
