Selma Carvalho wrote:
>
> I don't know about the rest of Goanetters but I would never take the word of
>a Cecil Pinto against that of fine man
> like Frederick Noronha
>
Dr. Jose Colaco responded:
>
> My dear Selma,
> Did you read the totality of what Cecil wrote? IF NOT .... on what basis are
> you making the comment quoted
>
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:54:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
Dear Doc,
Infra-vide or infra-red, for a long time now my email intuitively spams Cecil
Pinto's posts. Sometimes when I check my spam folder, I find them wedged
between some Nigerian scam and news that I've won the Canadian lottery.
Artificial intelligence is very good at detecting the similarity between mails.
>
Mario observes:
>
I think Fred can clear all this up, especially if he reads the following
analysis and gets to my concluding advice to him, just before I respond to
Eddie below.
>
In the interests of full disclosure I do not know either Fred or Cecil or Jose
or Selma personally - only through Goanet. I have an idea of what Cecil looks
like and Fred as well because their pictures have been published. Cecil is one
of the best satirists we have in our Goan community and Fred is a decent
journalist with a distinct political point of view which I disagree with most
of the time. I would not be able to vouch for their "fine-ness" if my life
depended on it - and I am not sure how Selma can vouch for Fred and denigrate
Cecil, though I suspect it is because Cecil has chided her for her opinions
more than once, but then, so have I, yet she loves me like a favorite
uncle:-)) Her comments about her spam filter insinuates that Cecil spams her
with personal emails. If he has done so I would be surprised because my
experience with Cecil is that he does not either pull his punches or suffer
fools gladly and doesn't care who knows it..
>
Please understand I am NOT calling anyone a fool - at least at this time. So,
everyone calm down. I want to focus this important issue before it goes
completely off the rails with Jose's pawky - look it up in the dictionary -
questions and Selma's equally pawky answers, at least, so far.
>
a) Sounds like Selmabai did not read the totality of what Cecil wrote, hence
the snide tap dance..
>
b) What difference does it make to his moderation of Goanet posts whether Fred
is a fine man, or not? As a Goanet member who has to deal with inexplicably
rejected posts from time to time, I would prefer a flawed man or woman who is
unbiased and empathetic and respectful towards posters over a fine man who is
biased in favor of a political agenda, and has so little respect for posters
that he is unable to explain why a post is being rejected and hides behind the
meaningless term "Inappropriate".
>
c) I know for a fact, based on Fred's own admissions, that Fred is so far out
on the political left wing that he is teetering on the brink and I am concerned
that he may fall off the planet:-))
>
d) Why did Fred ostentatiously resign as a Goanet moderator, then sneak back in
without any notice, until Herman listed him as a Goanet administrator?
>
e) If Fred is objective and above board in his moderation of Goanet posts, all
he needs to do is to sign his name at the bottom like Bosco does, so that we
know where to aim the brickbats, or, better yet, quit hiding behind the
demeaning and disrespectful word "Inappropriate" when rejecting a post, and
briefly explain why the post is being rejected. Not only does this show
respect for posters, without whom Goanet would be a cyber-cipher, but it gives
the poster an opportunity to reconsider their post
>
It also requires the moderator to be less subjective and biased, which is why
some moderators may not like to comply with my oft-repeated request.
>
Only Fred can sign his name on his rejection notices. Only Fred can explain
precisely why he is rejecting a post in a way the poster can understand. If he
refuses to either do these things or tell us why he will not, then we will know
for sure where Fred really stands.
>
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 23:54:12 +0100
From: "Eddie Fernandes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
The discussion about GoaNet moderation has come as no surprise but the acrimony
it has generated causes me concern.
>
Mario asks:
>
Eddie,
>
Are you aware that what Cornel and I and some others have asked for is,
>
a) that Goanet administration interpret what the topics will be more broadly to
be Goan-centris as opposed to Goa-centric, because so many members do not live
in Goa and may have some other interests from time to time. I believe the
administrators do this fairly well. My popular seminars that correct
misinformation and explain in simple terms how the US system of government
works is a great example:-))
>
b) that the moderators explain in brief why they are rejecting a post, instead
of insulting us with the term "Inappropriate". A simple explanation not only
shows respect for us as posters, but gives us a chance to re-consider what we
have written, edit it if necessary and re-submit, or withdraw the post.
>
Now, who can object to this?
>
Thus, there is no need for any acrimony if everyone approaches this with good
will and respect for others.
>
Cornel is obviously angry and frustrated because of the biases and objections
of certain administrators who have failed to comply with our reasonable
requests, mostly with b) above. Cornel does not suffer fools gladly:-))
Cornel and I have had some knock-down drag-out verbal battles royale on some
issues and are in the same foxhole on this issue and on our opposition to the
abomination of the caste system.
>
On the other hand, I love all my neighbors as myself, suffer all fools with the
patience of Job, and never get angry and frustrated with the perfect strangers
who are my allies or adversaries and other fellow-denizens on Goanet, or with
Goanet administration. I have enough trouble with those who LOVE me:-))
>
That does not mean I will ever stop demanding that the Goanet administration be
reasonable and run Goanet exactly how I want it run:-))
>
