Dear Dr. Barad,

DATE ... the day, month and year ..... is a chronological reference point. We 
all know that due to the differences in the Gregorian and Julian calendars, the 
Great October Revolution of Russia is actually on the 7th of November for the 
rest of the world!

September should have been the  7th month of the year ... but is actually the 
9th month. So is it with October, November and December ...all 2 months out of 
line!

Yes, you are right. Jesus of Nazereth was born in Bethlehem in 4 B.C. as per 
many historians. The date was fixed as wrongly as the birth certificates of 
many a non-Catholic in rural Goa till a few years ago when registration of 
birth became cumpolsory. the Catholics had the Baptism records to give the date 
of birth, give or take a few days.

The person of Jesus is not as important for chronology as he is for religion. 
Ditto for Hijira. I was shocked to learn that the Saka calender was of the 
Scythian [Saka] era and not anything to do with native Indian event. It was my 
belief that the Saka era was based on the Indian mythology and hence the 
fascination of the Government in using it pararllel with the AD/BC era. 

If people feel more comfortable with CE/BCE, so be it. Some time back some 
friends of mine were promoting BP and AP ... "Before Present" and "After 
Present". Then they hit a landmine ...the "Present" keeps shifting! ;-(
 CE and BCE may be better from a secular perspective ... if someone can 
universalize it while Christians still hold the power and purse strings of the 
world. There is a decline now but ...who has seen 
Tommorow?

Mog asundi.

Miguel

Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 07:14:36 +0530
From: "Dr. U. G. Barad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] "CE/BCE" or "AD/BC" dating notation
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I was taken by surprise when one friend challenged me saying CE/BCE is no
more defined as was before?. He continued saying CE now stands for "Common
Era."  CE and AD have the same and value.2004 CE = 2004 AD. The word
"common" simply means that it is based on the most frequently used calendar
system: the Gregorian calendar. BCE stands for "Before the common era." It
is expected to eventually replace BC, which means "Before Christ,"  BC and BCE 
are also identical in value. 
Most theologians and religious historians believe that the approximate birth 
date of Yeshua of Nazareth (Jesus) was  sometime between 7 and 4 BCE, although 
we have seen estimates as late as 4 CE and as early as the second century BCE.?

My question to Goanet members is: Why is this change brought about?  

Best regards,
Dr. U. G. Barad




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