"Freddy Fernandes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : I am sure most of our Goanettes have by now caught up with your "modus oprandi",you are one of those guys, that throws a stone and goes far off and watches theripples, your stone has created. I am sure most of us including our Hindubrothers on Goanet have realized your links to the radical organizations.
Response I do not need certification for whether I have links with radical organizations or not from any dimwitted bigots. Being a Hindu I could not either stand the venom being spewed on Hinduism in the guise of criticizing Hindu extremist organizations. I can very well understand the tone behind the Hindu basher’s write ups on Goanet. They do not miss a single opportunity to have cudgel against Hindus by highlighting the violence by Hindu radical groups but conveniently ignore to underline the truth of reasons behind these incidents. As far as our Hindu brothers on Goanet are concerned it Depends on what kind of Hindu they represent. Even if they do not subscribe for ideologies of VHP and Bajarand Dal, how did you imagine that they will agree with your creepy thoughts ? You should not forget that protest and violence is a natural instinct of all life forms, especially to defend the integrity of their being. Surely, you cannot be dreaming of depriving Hindus of their right to self defense. FF: I just want to make a few things clear, first and foremost let me advise you,that the people who fund, support and instigate violence or terrorism are asguilty as the terrorist themselves, so you are a terrorist or a part ofterrorism yourself for your support for the RSS and the Bagrangdal against theCatholics and Muslims. Response : Look, you are talking trash out. You are only concerned of Orissa, Guajarat and Mangalore incidents. You can not accept the attack on churches, the storming of Christian and Muslim hamlets even if these acts were the results of provocation and were done in defense of Hindu faith. You believe that we should gladly accept the desecration of our temples, the Christian - Marxist mercenaries killing our Hindu monks and the Islamic terrorist bombing our parliament. FF: To further educate you on the behavior of humans, let me tell you that, peoplewith radical ideologies, who think like you are found almost in every walk oflife, and unfortunately there seems to be no remedy for that, so for the sake ofthese radicals, we cannot blame the whole community, for their misdoings, forexample we cannot say that every Hindu is a bigot like you or the radicalorganizations you support , can we ? So why blame the whole Muslim community ?Aren't the RSS and the Bagrangdal, as much terrorist organizations, as SIMI ?And remember to clap, you need two hands, cannot clap with one hand. Response : Let me ask you a couple of Questions based on your crackbtrained statement above. Show me any incident where Bajrang Dal, RSS or VHP is involved in any anti national activity like carrying terrorist activities like Bomb Blasts? Forget these Organizations, is there any other Organizations known to media who are attempting conversions of Christians to Hindus or teaching Muslims against their faith? Let us first see what SIMI and Christian Missionaries do in India..It is well proven that SIMI and Indian Mujahiddin (reformed SIMI) are well engaged in doing bomb blasts all across the nation. Their network is throughout the country and their aim is killing innocent people. Missionaries entice poor Tribal people of money and convert them to Christians. They also attempt converting Hindus by way of abusing Hindu culture and Hindu concept of God. FF: You also justify violence against Muslims because most of the terrorist areMuslims (according to you), so would you make it clear to the goanetters, whatacts of violence or terror were committed by the innocent Christian victims ofthe Bihar carnage ? Is conversion according to you terrorism ? If there were anyforceful conversions, why isn't a single complain logged with the Authorities ?Are we not in the a 21 century democracy ? You sure are a confused personality,at the moment it looks like, your body is in the 21st century but your peanutbrain was frozen during the stone age era. Response : Pastors Vinod Karsal and Sekhar Kashav of Assembly of God Church in Jabalpur of Madhya Pradesh were arrested on false conversion allegation on 14 August 2006. Both of them were taken into custody under Section 3 and 4 of the Madhya Pradesh Freedom of Religious Act, 1968. Conversions are taking place among rural poor illiterate people by missionaries where they offer them money, free education and medical service. These people fall easy prey to these missionaries. You should understand that for them hunger is their religion. It is failure of our Government in these states that they can not provide them what foreign funded missionaries provide them. So the lodging of complaints do not arise since they do not want to loose these remunerations. FF: I am against any form of violence, violence is not the solution, violence onlybegets violence and anarchy prevails through it and innocent lives are lost. Tell me one thing, do the Muslim terrorist (according to you) target only nonMuslims or only Hindus ? There could be as many Muslims or Christians victims asHindus. Do you have any clue as to how many Muslims were killed in Gujarat andGodrah ? So, in this violence, who is the looser ? Humanity at large.. So packthat smack of hatred that you have in your mind and heart and take a closer lookat humanity and the afflictions that it's going through, an average human being,be it Hindu, Muslim or Catholic, will not vouch for violence as means to theend. Response : Pitrim Sorokin, a Harvard sociologist had said, "During the past few centuries the most belligerent, the most aggressive, the most rapacious, the most power-drunk section of humanity has been precisely, the Christian Western world..During these centuries western Christendom had invaded all other continents; its armies followed by priests and merchants have subjugated, robbed or pillaged most of the non-Christians. Native Americans, African, Australian, Asiatic populations have been subjugated to this peculiar brand of Christian "love" which has generally manifested itself in pitiless destruction, enslavement, coercion, destruction of the cultural values, institutions, the way of life of the victims and the spread of alcoholism, venereal disease, commercial cynicism and the like." http://www.burningcross.net/crusades/famous-quotes-christianity-2.html#Sorokin FF: What did the Mathama do for the Muslims that he did not do for the lower casteHindus ? Mathama wanted every one to be treated as equals and with respect, thegreat ideologies of Mathama will not fit in your peanut brain or those of theorganizations you support, that's the reason he was killed by the RSS. Response : Read these few lines excerpted from Kanchan Gupta’s article – During partition Hindus and Sikh refugees from Pakistan were struggling to keep body and soul together. Many of them had lost their loved ones in the partition riots -- women were raped in front of their husbands and children; young girls were abducted; men were disembowelled; trains arrived laden with dead bodies; people fleeing marauders were set upon with ferocious brutality. They had been attacked byJihadi mobs. Delhi was flooded by nearly one million refugees, all of them desperately looking for food and shelter. They were distraught and traumatised, unable to figure out why their lives had been turned upside down in so gruesome a manner. Nor could they understand the rationale behind protecting Delhi's Muslims. What left them aghast was Gandhi's insistence that Hindu and Sikh refugees should be sent back to Pakistan and Muslims who had left India be brought back. It didn't make sense. Nor did the vicious blood-letting that followed. Meanwhile, Pakistan had launched its mission to smash and grab Jammu & Kashmir and was demanding that India hand over Rs 55 crore, its share of the cash reserve inherited from the departing British colonial Government. The proverbial last straw was Gandhi's threat to go on a fast to force the Government of India to accept Pakistan's demand. In all fairness, it needs to be recalled that Jawaharlal Nehru was opposed to the idea: He famously declared that giving the money to Pakistan would mean providing it with "sinews of war". The old man was not listening: In the end, Gandhi had his way although people were aghast. But did this gross act of injustice to the people of India and the callous disregard for the sentiments of millions of refugees -- half-a-million people perished in the violence, 12 million were rendered homeless I do not justify murder of Gandhi by RSS man Nathuram Godse but just trying to underline the possible reason for his killing. Laluram Salvi Bicholim Goa Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
