--- On Fri, 11/28/08, jane gillian rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Don't any one of you on goanet shamelessly, dare to make excuses for 
> terrorism and terrorists by stating as per e-mail below -"The catalyst 
> was the razing of the Babri Masjid".
> 
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:35:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

What? You don't buy this insightful non-partisan and unbiased justification? 
Okay, how about if I tell you that you are taking that Babri Masjid sentence 
out of context? 

Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:00:42 +0530
From: "Frederick \"FN\" Noronha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Part of the problem as I see it is that India's Establishment
(including its main Opposition party) has chosen to garb its concerns
and preoccupations in the language of religiosity. 

India is also into large-scale denial about how deeply all the
politics-of-hate and communalism that have got legitimacy in Indian
discourse (including from sections within the Congress, see some of
the policies of the Digambar Kamat government, for instance) have
helped make possible the tragedy that today is South Bombay.

Btw, would we all be shedding as many tears if the people affected
were not the richest in the most fashionable addresses of Mumbai? The
'politics of response' is also interesting. FN

Mario observes:

Fred,

Your last comment above is simply despicable.  You decry politics, religiosity 
and communalism and then blythely replace it with class envy.

Were those killed at CS Train Terminus, Cama and Albless Hospitals, Municipal 
Corp. etc, from the fashionable part of town?

Santosh,

In my opinion, Babri Masjid is only tangential to the motives of these 
terrorists, who, I believe, are part of the larger worldwide terrorist movement 
led by Osama Bin Laden and Ayman al Zuwahiri.

The terrorist movement has made it quite clear what their demands are, and 
there are only four ways in which to stop their attacks, whether they be on 
Britain, Bali, Europe, the US or India - all democracies, some with better 
defenses than others:

1. For the Jews to give up Israel

2. For the Indians to give up Kashmir

3. For the rest of us to become Muslims

4. Since the last three are non-negotiable, India needs to get off its high 
moral horse of non-violence and join those engaged in the worldwide war on 
terror in killing as many terrorists as possible, or to make the costs on them 
so great that they are forced to stop attacking innocent civilians.  India 
needs to mobilize it's law abiding and non-radical Muslims to join the effort 
and help infiltrate home-grown groups and destroy them from within.  Innocent 
Muslims are not exempt from being terrorist targets as we have seen in 
Afghanistan, Iraq and India itself.

Only by such a concerted effort will this movement be stopped, just like other 
similar movements in the past which were motivated by communism and as opposed 
to the current communalism and a distorted version of religion.

 




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