Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:43:06 +0530 From: "Fr. Ivo C. de Souza" <[email protected]>
The 'psychedelic experiences' are not MYSTICAL EXPERIENCES of which we are speaking in the discussion of Carmelite nuns and Dr.Mario Beauregard. Richard Dawkins also tried it, but did not succeed. Dr.Santosh will not have the MYSTICAL EXPERIENCES, as we are discussing... Mario responds: Padre Ivo, If Dr. Beauregard cannot make Santosh have mystical experiences like the Carmelite nuns then his theory is bogus, because God does not distinguish between Santosh and the Carmelite nuns - they are all his children made in his image. I learned that in Catechism class. I think Dr. Beauregard may be hypnotizing those poor nuns, or giving them a lot of feni before testing them, which is guaranteed to create mystical experiences:-)) I doubt he can hypnotize Santosh or get him drunk either:-)) BTW, I cannot remember what your theory is anymore, because I remember you agreed several weeks ago that the existence of God cannot be proven or disproven by science. Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:54:50 +0530 From: "Fr. Ivo C. de Souza" <[email protected]> Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE Science is Science and Religion is Religion. There is no conflict between Science and Religion. Mario asks: Arre, baba, you are chasing your tail, no? If there is no conflict between science and religion then why is it not possible to prove the existence of God by science? If there is no conflict between religion and science then why are you metaphorically wrestling in the mud with Santosh over the conflict between science and religion? Fr. Ivo wrote: But the basis of Christianity is historical, therefore it can be confirmed through historical, scientific, archaeological, cultural tools. Mario asks: So, Fr. Ivo, Can you specify which of these tools you have listed were used to confirm the Virgin Birth, the Resurrection of Christ, His Ascension into Heaven, and the Assumption of Mary into Heaven? While you are at it please explain the scientific explanation for what is the Holy Trinity. Also, can you explain when the Gospels were written relative to the date of Christ's death, by whom they were written, in what language, and why certain Gospels were accepted and others were rejected? Was all this done "scientifically"? Now, for me to understand, please use standard English, because I can't understand the version that says up is down and black is white and religion is not in conflict with science.
