Dear Joe,
I wish to comment on your views that Democracy has given rise to corruption 
among politicians and others down the line. It is true that such ills exist not 
only in Goa but also in other parts of India. Delhi is the worst of the lot.My 
son who is a graduate commercial pilot in the USA sufferred so much humiliation 
and impropriety at the hands of small time clerks and peons each asking for 
money even to do the least work of getting a file from one desk to the next. On 
one occassion a clerk threw my sons US Pilots license across his desk resulting 
in it falling to the floor, he was asked to pick it up. Which my son did. So 
much insolence from such low level staff. My son was shocked at the attitudes 
that prevailed. India and Indians at large cannot bring themselves upto the 
West, though a small minority may have acquired a lifestyle and demeanor 
appropriate to a western culture, but these people are a small minority and 
will not make any difference to the
 Indian society at large. We need a dramatic change in mindset across the 
entire population that bribery and corruption is not acceptable and will not be 
given to get things done. But who will enforce discipline?? WE have an 
incorrigible situation which needs urgent correction. But when the police 
themselves are corrupt to whom can the public turn to in such cases.?? 
 Godfrey Rasquinha UAE



----- Original Message ----
From: Joe Lobo <[email protected]>
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:20:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Is it not better to be slave!

  Dear  Mr. Barve,
Sameer  Kelekar seemed  to  miss the  point  that  I  was  
making...........that  in  about  48  years  of  joining  the  Indian  Union  
many of  our  state  civil servants, minor  bureaucrats,  mamlatdars, panchayat 
officials  and  some  politicians seem  to  have  learnt  well  from  our  
Delhi  masters  the  practice  of  extorting  bribes  with  a  standard  
operating  attitude of  "  Bribe  me  handsomely or  I  shall  stymie your  
efforts  to  access services  to  which  you  are  entitled and  frustrate  
your getting anywhere  whether it  is a  driving  licence, attestation of  a  
birth certificate  or other  documents leading  to  establishing  your  title 
to  ancestral/ family  property. "
    W.r.t.  to  Sammeer`s  comment that democracy  is  not  meant  for  the  
faint  of  heart  I  detcect  a laissez-faire  attitude of  accepting  bribery  
and  corruption  as  the  cost  of  democracy.  Why  is  it  that in  western  
countries  applicants  for  services  like  driving  licences  do  not  have  
to  grease  a  gov. clerk`s  palm to  proceed  with  an  application  and  it  
should  be  considered  acceptable  in  Goa ?

SHRIKANT BARVE wrote:
> If you want it easy, it is better to be a slave. Sameer Kelekar
> http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-May/177825.html
> 
> Are we inclined to be slave? or Is it better to be slave with no expectations 
> except MOKSHA!
> 
> Shrikant Vinayak Barve
> 
> 
> 
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