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Cecil tks for bringing out this topic.
I admire Jose ear for konkani music but I must say that Jose bab did not hear all the songs of Chris Perry and Alfred Rose. If he had to hear the later albums of Chris Perry, he would surely know that..indeed Chris Perry did borrow a line or too from Western as well as Bollywood music...if you listen to albums like Do Re Me Fa and Carnival of Chris Perry you will
know what am talking about.

I have heard of Bollywood musicians copying a line or two of western music..Bappi Lahri was one who copied the whole
music and even R.D.Burman.

I think it is unfair to say that Chris Perry was Cleverer than Alfred Rose...how many songs have you heard of Chris Perry and Alfred Rose?...well I would say both of them were legends in their own time...but then I would give more credit to Alfred Rose, cause he was able to bring out the combination of English and Konkani throught his life..while Chris Perry faded when Lorna was not there. Alfred Rose sang his songs with almost all the tiatrist except Lorna.

Angela, Lady from Goa, Lovely Ester, Lighthouse, But you love me Daddy, Happy Birthday My Diana, are some of the songs of Alfred Rose in English with the last verse in Konkani....and Rita Rose songs Gossip and Kagdache Gulab...Paper roses by Marie Osmond. By the way a friend of mine is looking out for Alfred Rose song Luiza the Bombshell..did you hear it?
Will appreciate if anyone has this song.

It is not only Alfred Rose and Chris Perry who have relied heavily on western music for konkani, but almost all of the tiatrist I can say at one point of their time. The only konkani music that has not been sampled are the old Konkani Mandos,Dulpods
and Dekhnis.

Many of Sharon Maz konkani songs, the tunes are from English songs..have you heard of Alice... who the hell is Alice..well there is a konkani song too...and the two Konkani Albums Dhirio (Bullfights) between Sharon and Young Chico...Oh Carol, Hello Mary Lou and Jim Reeves songs....and theres Succu singing..Fotkiro Mog..based on the song..Dont Tell me Stories by Saskia & Serge... and with a collection of 4000 Konkani songs ( 16GB digitalised songs + 200+ cassettes) I can go on and on....

Eddie Verdes
Chinchinim/KSA
http://edskantaram.blogspot.com/

Konkani tunes sampled from Western
Fri Aug 7 20:59:24 PDT 2009

On another forum my researcher friend Jose Lourenco brought up thetopic of Konkani song composers 'sampling' from Western tunes -sometimes blatantly and totally, sometimes subtly and partially.

I am quoting selectively (with his permission) from Jose's statementsand am hoping to take this discussion further. The ethics of samplingor plaigarism does not interest me in this case but rather a listingif possible of all identifieable lifts from Western tunes.

quote ----The late Alfred Rose was well known for borrowing melodies fromwestern songs. But he was not alone in this. I stumbled across theinspiration for one of Chris Perry's most famous Konkani songs whilebrowsing YouTube. I am not belittling Perry or Rose in any way. But as connoisseurs ofmusic, we must delve into the origins of our music, as Pandit BhaskarChandawarkar (who passed away a few weeks ago) often told me duringthe Konkani Music Festival. We must not be ashamed to study and recordthe influences and inputs into our music.

Listen to Lulu's song Boom Bang a Bang from 1969 and guess the Konkanisong based on it (not a Chris Perry song): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUWkH4ee8TQ unquote --------Can anybody give more examples?Cheers!Cecil========

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