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       BOOK RELEASE: Medieval Goa by Teotonio R. de Souza
Will be re-released after 30 years on August 21, 2009 at 5:15pm
         at Goa Chambers of Commerce and Industry Hall,
                near Azad Maidan in Panjim, Goa

                 http://medieval-goa.notlong.com

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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:58:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: marlon menezes <[email protected]>
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181710.html

The issue here is not whether I am opposed to socialized medical care. I am, 
with no preconditions. 

Mario responds:

The real issue here is your ability to either comprehend plain English or 
alternatively, your veracity or lack thereof, which I have already illustrated 
for the Nth time in:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181615.html

If you are unable to comprehend what I have written, how can any rational 
Goanetter believe you are able to comprehend the assumptions you use in your 
analyses?

Marlon wrote:

The facts suggest otherwise. Mario claims that the current, allegedly free 
market system in the US is working fine. 

Mario responds:

False.

Here is what I concluded in my response to JC:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181597.html

Quote: "By the time the smoke clears, we should have some workable reforms that 
cover the people who need help."

Here is what I said, in part, in my response to lyrawmn:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181657.html

Quote: "To begin with, the common-sense objective should be to help people who  
really need financial help in obtaining health care coverage, not just everyone 
who does not have it."

Quote: "These are the hard core uninsured who really need help and should be 
helped."

Marlon wrote:

So here we have Mario, defending the broken socialized status quo, while 
himself admitting that it is not sustainable. 

Mario responds:

False.

Here is what I said in:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181502.html

Quote: 
However, because the Medicare system has been designed and is run by government 
bureaucrats and is a single-payer system, it is projected to become bankrupt by 
2017. 

http://www.examiner.com/x-11804-Health-Care-Examiner~y2009m6d17-Medicare-trustees-report-shows-program-will-run-out-of-money-earlier-than-expected

Thus for Gilbert to point to this system as a paragon to be expanded for all 
Americans is disingenuous at best.  Either that, or he has no idea what is 
going on.
Unquote:

Marlon wrote:

Furthermore, Mario wants the public to fund his expenses, while he opposes the 
same for those younger than age 65 and in particular the youth and children who 
he claims don't want or need medical coverage.

Mario responds:

False.

Here is what I said in:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181615.html

Quote: "If Marlon would read and/or understand what has been posted already he 
would know that I am opposed to socialized medicine precisely because the 
government run Medicare system is going broke." 

In Marlon's inability to either understand what I am writing, or alternatively, 
a pathological "need" to distort and misrepresent my views in order to make his 
own points, this has somehow been translated into, "Mario wants the public to 
fund his expenses...."

I would urge Goanetters to keep the evidence I have presented here in mind when 
you see other posts by Marlon.

Sat Aug 15 17:15:31 PDT 2009
From: Roland Francis 
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181706.html

Marlon, getting personal is a sure sign of weakness.

Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:36:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: marlon menezes <[email protected]>

Roland,
Sometimes, the truth hurts. 
Marlon

Mario observes:

>From the serial misrepresentations I have documented above, this comment by 
>Marlon in response to Roland's truism, is another stark illustration that he 
>is having severe problems comprehending these discussions.

Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:20:24 -0400
From: "J. Colaco  < jc>" <[email protected]>
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181745.html

Another possible truth: Marlon could not argue his point of view 'logically' 
with Mario, so he got personal.

I trust Marlon and all those who thought it was OK for Marlon to 'get
personal with Mario' ..... have a good Sunday and week ahead.

Mario responds:

Thanks, JC, but in fairness to the others, they are

a) probably confident that the lone voice on Goanet for reason, truth and 
peace, would methodically dismantle the factual misrepresentations and show 
them for what they are, and

b) know that Roland and you are right on the mark:-))


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