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August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary
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From: "Mario Goveia" <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 00:34:57 -0700
From: "isouza" <[email protected]>
When Benedict XVI is writing on integral human development, he certainly
knows more than you and I.
Mario responds:
Speak for yourself, Fr. Ivo:-))
***There is no need to be a professional economist or politician to know
what it is dishonest behaviour in economic or political fields. The Holy
Father will never speak on economics or politics without consulting experts
in economics and politics...
Real human development has progressed the most for the most people most of
the time when people followed their own free market instincts, not by what
any Pope or other elitist like Karl Marx thought who has never had to
decide what products to make or sell, never hired people in a business,
never had to pay them every month from the cash flow of the business,
never had to worry about making a profit for the business, and knows beans
about economics or the pros and cons of outsourcing.
*** "Free market instincst"... Karl Marx ...elitist... sell our products,
learnthe tricks of the trade, pay justly and honestly your workers, make
porfit in your business. The businessmen will learn all this in their day to
day life. Not all of them are graduated in economics or politics. You can
see how well the Goan politicians are doing without even S.S.C... They would
have been successful and really responsible to the Goan people if they had
followed the principles laid by the Church in her Social Encyclicals...
This would be as bogus as a Pope preaching about day-to-day marital
relations as part of "human development".
***That is what John Paul II did throughout his life, and the married
couples are grateful to him. The Youth still remember him.
Fr. Ivo wrote:
Rather than teaching technical economics Benedict XVI is teaching how love
can solve the problems of the nations. "Love-caritas- is an extraordinary
force which leads people to opt for courageous and generous engagement in
the field of justice and peace".
Mario observes:
Unfortunately, while love may make the world go round, Pope Benny's love
doesn't seem to include those who would lose their livelyhoods if
outsourcing were to end because of Pope Benny trying to put some bogus
moral guilt trip on business owners.
*** The Holy Father is right, whereas Mario is wrong. Benedict XVI did not
"end" outsourcing ("if outsourcing were to end"), but "guided" it. Read the
text before you criticise.
"...Moreover, the so-called
outsourcing of production can weaken the company's sense of responsibility
towards the stakeholders - namely the workers, the suppliers, the
consumers,
the natural environment and broader society - in favour of the
shareholders,
who are not tied to a specific geographical area and who therefore enjoy
extraordinary mobility".
"Today's international capital market offers great
freedom of action. Yet there is also increasing awareness of the need for
greater social responsibility on the part of business. Even if the ethical
considerations that currently inform debate on the social responsibility
of
the corporate world are not all acceptable from the perspective of the
Church's social doctrine, there is nevertheless a growing conviction that
business management cannot concern itself only with the interests of the
proprietors, but must also assume responsibility for all the other
stakeholders who contribute to the life of the business: the workers, the
clients, the suppliers of various elements of production, the community of
reference..."
" Paul VI invited people to give serious attention to
the damage that can be caused to one's home country by the transfer abroad
of capital purely for personal advantage[95]. John Paul II taught that
investment always has moral, as well as economic significance[96]. All
this - it should be stressed - is still valid today, despite the fact that
the capital market has been significantly liberalized, and modern
technological thinking can suggest that investment is merely a technical
act, not a human and ethical one.
"There is no reason to deny that a certain
amount of capital can do good, if invested abroad rather than at home. Yet
the requirements of justice must be safeguarded, with due consideration
for
the way in which the capital was generated and the harm to individuals
that
will result if it is not used where it was produced[97]." (CV no.40).
In short, as I said earlier, "Benedict XVI is not against outsourcing, but
is appealing to
responsibility towards all the stakeholders over mere profitability of
shareholders"...
Real economic justice and peace comes from stable economies where people
have stable employment and are free to buy and sell products and services
and run their businesses without coercion by the heavy hand of government
or the Vatican.
***The Vatican is not hampering business, but helping it to go the right
way...
If the Vatican wants REAL economic justice and peace it should lecture
governments to get out of the way of their business enterprises, and focus
on helping them with reasonable tax policies and the best infrastructure
and security systems possible so that they are free to conduct their
businesses more easily and without fear.
***Unfortunately the Church cannot do it. Let her do what she is doing at
present...
In such an environment private charities spring up to help those members
of the society who are unable to help themselves.
***Service is the key-word for every business company. Let them do it
correctly and help those who are in need. The Church refuses to accept
"black money" from the "dishonest stewards"...
Regards.
Fr.Ivo
