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From: "Mario Goveia" <[email protected]>
From: Ivo da C.Souza
"At the beginning of the 1900s, one person out of 100 died of cancer;
today it is one out of three.
We foresee that within a few years one out of two people will die of
cancer.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 00:12:42 -0400
From: "Bosco D'Mello" <[email protected]>
The top 10 causes of death from the World Health Organization:
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs310/en/index.html
Mario responds:
Once again, we see the absolute garbage on cancer that Fr. Ivo has been
posting.
***Mario is come back with his barrage of postings. The text is taken by me
from Dr.Tullio Simoncini's Website. I have already said that it has to be
investigated. The origin of cancer given by him may not be correct. What is
"absolute garbage" in my posting? Does Mario understand it?
We are also seeing a relentless barrage of unscientific and untested
"alternative" medical information from Con Menezes as Santosh has begun to
point out.
***What is wrong if the Website of Dr.Tullio Simoncini is brought to the
knowledge of the readers?
Why are these non-physicians posting information on serious issues like
medicine and medical treatments from sources that promote medical
information that has not been reviewed or tested by any respectable
medical authority, that could lead to serious health problems for anyone
who thinks this information is medically legitimate?
***Any one is free to judge from themselves. Let there be a discussion with
several people from the field. Why "non-physicians" cannot post information
about medicine for discussion?
For example, if anyone out there believes Fr. Ivo's blanket garbage that
cancer is "incurable" and acts accordingly by delaying testing and
treatment, their lives may be put in jeopardy.
***I did not advise such foolishness. Mario is such a fool to misunderstand
my clear statements. Once cancer is detected, it has to be immediatley
treated by cancer specialized hospitals. Have I advised anything different?
I even mentioned surgeons and physicians who would immediately send the
patients to Tata Memorial Hospital, even though they thought that it would
not be cured, totally and permanently. I have given examples of those who
were declared "cured" after surgery, chemotherapy and radiation by the
Hospital, but have died within one month. How do I put lives "in jeopardy"?
Nobody is going to "delay testing", but being asymptomatic it may come to
knowledge at a late stage... Did I say that nothing should be done for
treatment of cancer, though most of the times it will be palliation and
prolongation of life? Is this not a serious hnecessary attempt? Why is Mario
misunderstanding and belittling the "non-physicians"?
NONE of the "alternative" medical information that Con is posting has been
tested by any credible authority. NO ONE should believe any of this
information without checking with a legitimate physician - some of it may
be harmless, some of it may be harmful for your health. No one really
knows within any probability of effectiveness.
***That is precisely what is being done. It is being tested on thousands of
cancer patients by Dr.Tullio Simoncini. How many "legitimate physicians"
have tested Dr.Simoncini's new method?
A PRIEST with no medical training cannot be allowed to spread such
falsehoods in a public forum without rebuttal by medical scientists like
Santosh and the other practicing physicians who are members of Goanet,
many of whom are strangely silent.
***Mario does not understand anything. I challenge any physician on this
point. Dr.Santosh is just quoting American statistics.
This is not happening here under our eyes. We do not need any medical
training for this statement. I have spoken to physicians and surgeons, who
do agree with me. A Priest without any medical training will be able to
confirm the fact of cancer patients with the experience of the people. With
my pastoral concern and medical training I am meeting cancer patients...who
have taken all medication from cancer hospitals, but are just eager to know
whether they are going to live for some time... I can only advise them: "Be
not afraid. Mario Goveia in America is living (with cancer...) for some
years, so you also will be living in Goa..." Let Mario not accuse me of
spreading "falsehoods in a public forum"...
Regards.
Fr.Ivo