Mario wrote: > Treaties are not passed by citizens.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:17:59 +0400 From: Arwin Mesquita <[email protected]> Are you based in a country run by a dictatorship or a democratic country to make such a illogical statement?? Citizens are the final authority on the future of thier land. So in the view of the same not being done, this treaty you so strongly support is Null & Void; in my opinion. Mario responds: Arwin, Goans HAVE BEEN the final authority regarding whom they elect to run Goa for several years now. I'm not sure what more you want, other than, perhaps, to be made Maharajah of Goa:-)) I think I would vote for Floriano to be the Maharajah:-)) It seems you know about as much about a "representative democracy" form of government as you know about your mythical Goan identity. In a "representative democracy" which is what India is, the authority of the citizens is exercised when they elect their representatives. In between formal elections they are not required to be formally consulted. Mario previously wrote: Asking the "permission" of Goans to liberate Goa from invaders who had occupied it for 450 years would be like the police asking a kidnapped family's permission to rescue them. Arwin responded: You mean liberate Goa for Goans Or Liberate Goa from the Goans: I suggest you visit Goa and see for yourself how today Goans are being reduced to a minority. Mario responds: I visit Goa once a year and own a home there. I'm not even going to mention in this discussion that you don't even live in Goa:-)) As a Catholic growing up in India, I have always been a minority. I have no problem being a minority. Even in Goa Catholics were a minority even when some of them were Portuguese bootlickers. If all Goans are being reduced to a minority because other Indians are relocating there there is nothing you can do about it since India has long been a part of India. Mario previously wrote: What you and JC are ignoring is that representative democracies are not run by referendum. Even if one had been held, I believe the majority of Goans would have opted for kicking out the Portuguese occupiers, though many Goan Catholics may have continued to opt for Portuguese bootlicking. Arwin responded: How you are so sure of your irrelavabt belief, do you have any supporting info facts? Mario responds: I have exactly as many facts as you do:-)) Mario previously wrote: Be thankful Goa was kept as one political entity, or Bardez may now be a part of Maharashtra and Salcette a part of Karnataka. Arwin responded: Thankful for what?? The Way Goa is going away from Goans today.. In a Few Years Goa will anyway look like a part of Maharashtra or a part of Karnataka. Mario responds: Goa is not going anywhere. If Goa becomes more like Maharashtra or Karnataka, so be it. You may be right but there is nothing you can do about it because I don't see anyone making you Maharajah of Goa:-)) Mario previously wrote: Case closed. Time to move on. Arwin responded: Sorry Mario, Only Majority Goans can decide if this case is closed or not; and not individually you or me for that matter Mario responds: Sorry, Arwin. After liberating Goa from the Europeans who had forcibly invaded it and occupied it for 450 years, India graciously gave Goa back to the Goans to run as a state without dividing it. That case is closed. Whatever problems you perceive, whether real or imagined, have to be addressed by electing honest politicians and then seeing if you can convince them to run Goa the way you want, withing the constitution of Goa and of India. Arwin wrote: Time to move to to what are you indicating here? Give up on Goa, Migrate to USA/EUROPE etc.. do nothing for Goa,.. Let Goa Rot and Let Goa no longer belong to Goans? Are you giving such views to safeguard you immigrant status in te USA or do you actually care for the Future of Goa & Goans ?? Mario responds: Each Goan will decide for themselves what they want to do for themselves and their families, just as they have always done and just as you have done by choosing to work in the Gulf. What I care about - in Goa and the rest of India - is the bribery and corruption, electing and re-electing dishonest politicians, the abysmal lack of civic sense and consideration for fellow citizens that no one in a leadership position seems to be addressing.
