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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 20:42:27 -0400
From: "manuel tavares" <[email protected]>

It would seem that there are Goans like Cheryl who would appreciate the take 
over of Goa by people from other parts of India who do not belong to this 
tradition or culture. 

Mario responds:

Manuelbab,

You put my name in the title of your post but then singled out Cheryl in your 
comments?  I have been writing about this for years.  She's what we call a 
newbie, but one with plenty of "akkal" and common sense.

Neither Cheryl nor I "appreciate" what is going on because we are Goans too.  
Cheryl apparently grew up in Goa in a family that benefited from the 
Portuguese, whereas I am a Bhayya-Goan who grew up in MP, whose family was on a 
Portuguese "black list" because I had a relative among the "freedom fighters".

We are actually sad about what is going on.  But we are also realistic, as 
opposed to the dreamers who are bloviating on Goanet blaming everyone for 
whatever "take over of Goa" is going on but Goans themselves.

Goa was liberated from the Portuguese occupiers in 1961, after which Goa's 
infrastructure like roads, electricity, sanitation systems, transportation 
systems, etc. were dragged out of the dark ages by the Indian government.  

Goa was then handed over to the Goans on a platter in 1987, and it is only 
thereafter that the worst corruption and developmental atrocities have taken 
place, like building an ugly PWD Head Office on the peak of Altinho, allowing 
eight storied buildings on the Miramar seafront and on the hills above Taleigao 
- and that's only a few examples in the Panjim area.  Leaving the scars from 
open face mining is another example among many.

Manuel wrote:

They do not appreciate the uniqueness of our culture and will in fact 
contribute to the annihlation of not only our culture but the whole goan 
community as we know it.

Mario responds:

I'm not sure which segment of Goan culture you are talking about, but it is up 
to you to preserve whatever culture you identify with.  Why would others care 
about YOUR culture.

Manuel wrote:

One can see that their sole purpose is to exploit the Goans by robbing them of 
their land and  plunder their mineral wealth for their own selfish gains.

Mario responds:

Are Goans like sheep that they are allowing themselves to be "exploited" in 
this manner?  Why aren't Goans exploiting their own land for their own "selfish 
gains"?  Do you want others to do it for you?

Manuel wrote:

They contribute precious little to advancing the goan culture and care even 
less for the Goan people. The Goan will soon be a minority and will have no 
major say in anything.

Mario responds:

Whatever "Goan culture" you are talking about is the responsibility of those 
who identify with it.  Why would others care about YOUR culture?

If Goans become a minority and have no say, whose fault is it but their own?  
They had the place to themselves before anyone else.  Why didn't they demand 
that the Portuguese hand Goa over to THEM?  Did they really believe in the 
fantasy that Goa was an "overseas province" of Portugal?

Manuel wrote:

Goa will exist in name only and will probably evoke nostalgic memories in 
future generations or elderly remnants of the populace of a Goa that once was. 
One has only to look at the Amero Indians to see what a majority of outsiders 
has done to to their culture and socio political advancement. 

Mario responds:

You are absolutely correct.  Outsiders took what the Amero Indians had and 
turned it into the world's superpower and economic engine.

It is  struggling right now because of a misguided experiment in social 
engineering which started when the government imposed regulations to force 
banks to lend money to low income people to buy homes.

To comply, the banks came up with fundamentally flawed lending practices.  For 
awhile it seemed like a socialist's idea of Nirvana.  Then it came time to pay 
the piper.

When the low income people were unable to repay their loans the "bubble" burst 
and the economic system almost collapsed.

The reconstruction process in America will begin in January 2013.

What you need to do in Goa, Manuelbab, is to preach to the Goans in Goa that 
they need to a) start electing honest politicians like our Floriano, b) develop 
and implement building standards for each village to preserve the local 
culture, ambience and architecture, organized by their own Village Panchayats 
and Gram Sabhas, and c) band together, perhaps into cooperatives, and develop 
Goa's resources for themselves.

No one else is going to do any of this for you.






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