Mario Goveia wrote: 

> Let's leave aside for now the questionable notion that 0.04% [rounded 
> off] of a clear gas in the atmosphere can trap heat like a "greenhouse" 
> while letting in heat from the sun.

Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:51:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: marlon menezes <[email protected]>
Re: [Goanet] Motorbikes, two-wheelers and Global Cooling

Mario, I can give you a vial of cyanide with a concentration of 0.04%. If you 
think it is insignificant, please do us a favor and lap it all up. Just because 
a number is small does not make it insignificant. Dopants as little 0.000001% 
(and much less) can change the properties of materials drastically. 

Mario responds:

This is a red herring.  Cyanide is a known poison, which is lethal at certain 
concentrations.  In lower concentrations it is harmless. 

http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/rzepa/mim/environmental/html/hcn_text.htm

Using a known poison like cyanide in a solution as an analogy, environmental 
activists often try to show that 0.036% of a clear plant food like CO2 mixed in 
with 99.964% of other gases in the atmosphere will make the atmosphere act like 
a "greenhouse", i.e. physically block heat from escaping and thus causing the 
earth to warm up.  This is a bogus analogy between a poison that must be 
ingested and a gas that is said to block heat like a "greenhouse".

This would have been simply an interesting scientific debate, but the 
environmental extremists want to use their controversial theories to impose 
controls on only the western economies which will bring them down towards the 
least common denominator and make them more like the less developed countries 
are today, i.e economically weak.

Only 0.013% of the earth's atmosphere is comprised of man-made CO2. The 
environmental extremists ask us to believe that they can control this minute 
amount by requiring only the western economies to turn back the clock on their 
economies by 80% by 2050 from 2000 levels.  In the meantime all the less 
developed countries can continue business as usual, including Russia, China, 
India, Australia, Brazil and Mexico.

Of course this makes no sense, because the effects will be in opposite 
directions cancelling each other out.

What the environmental extremists are  essentially trying to convince us is 
equivalent to pretending that smoke in the atmosphere in a closed hall can be 
controlled by having a large and growing smoking section on one side.

Their time could be put to better use if they tried to come up with contingency 
plans to cope with whatever Mother Nature has in store for the earth.  Some 
scientists think that any further warming will be modest and may even be 
beneficial to humans by having positive effects on food production and by 
reducing the need for energy for heating. 


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