--- On Fri, 11/13/09, Frederick Noronha <fredericknoro...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I do not believe World War II was "our" war, despite all the rhetoric > about the "fight against Nazism" and what not. It still seems to me to > be a ruthless scramble for colonies between a Britain that had an unfair > share at that time and a Germany that felt badly left out (despite its > technological and scientific prowess). And a violent struggle for > economic clout in a changing world. -- FN > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:09:38 -0800 (PST) From: Carvalho <elisabeth_...@yahoo.com>
The majority of the Goans were very pro-Allied forces and infact one Goan had lit up his house with lights and everytime there was a Allied victory he would flash his lights all night long. All this is my own research, so you're not likely to be able to google it I'm afraid. :-)) Mario asks: Hey, Selma, What say you about Red Fred's claim that the "fight against Nazism" and "what not" is all empty rhetoric. Apparently the real reason for WW-II was a mad scramble by your greedy Brits for additional colonies and the poor Nazis felt "badly left out" - poor babies - "in a changing world". So, guess what? They decided to go on a violent rampage against the rest of Europe so that they could feel like part of the club and get some economic clout and colonies of their own. And, just BTW, decided to exterminate as many Jews as they could while they were at it, just for the heck of it. Santosh wrote: "This is an amazing revision of history. The fight against Nazism in scare quotes was only rhetoric? Does Noronha deny the holocaust as well?" Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:17:13 +0530 From: augusto pinto <pinto...@gmail.com> I think that what FN is saying is not so far fetched unless one wishes to view the world in black and white terms as Santosh wishes to do. I'd recommend Amitav Ghosh's novel 'The Glass Palace' for a very nuanced reading of the issues involved and that includes the nature of colonialism; the motivations underlying the Second World War; the responses of different Indian to this war; and the nature of war itself. Mario responds: Am I reading this right? Is Augusto really saying that Fred's attempt to turn the reasons for WW-II upside down are not far fetched? I'd like to know how the Nazi breakout across Europe after signing a peace treaty with the gullible Neville Chamberlain, the Nazi Axis of Evil with Fascist Italy and Imperial Japan, and the genocide against the Jews, can be "nuanced" by any rational person, to impugn the motivations of the Allies. Can anyone even imagine what the world would have been like had the Allies not prevailed? Santosh is being kind when he says this brazen attempt to revise history is amazing. The real adjective would not make it past the moderators. Sufficeth to say it boggles the mind to see some folks trying to re-write history to make the positively evil Nazis, Fascists and Imperialists look less evil by twisting what actually happened.
