This new installment on the above-referenced subject from Shri Averthanus L. 
D'Souza appears to be a rambling diatribe meant to deflect attention from the 
serious scientific and philosophical points made in my earlier responses. The 
use of “we”, “our” and "us" in this screed makes it appear that he is speaking 
on behalf of his political constituents, co-religionists or his organization. 

This new harangue is a sophomoric reaction to substantive statements, using 
such frivolous gimmicks as to ridicule non-human primates by anthropomorphizing 
them, as if such a thoughtless response could ever make a dent in the 
scientific observation that these animals are self-conscious beings. What is 
worse is that the author does not have the courage of his religious 
convictions. He flatly denies the transparent fact that his claims are derived 
from his own religion. Instead, he wants readers to believe that science is the 
basis for his morality, which he believes is synonymous with legality. He wants 
to sell the whopper that his received wisdom regarding “intrinsic evil”, and 
his self-righteous pronouncements of medical abortion and medical use of human 
embryos being murder, are dictated not by his priests, but by scientists. One 
would surely like him to answer the following question in this regard, so 
hopefully one can find out how much
 credibility he is willing to expend in order to test the gullibility of his 
fellow primates (In case of unfamiliarity with basic biology, please note that 
humans, like monkeys and apes, are primates):

Which branch of science defines murder, and gives these medical procedures as 
examples of murder, and based on what scientific justification?

Furthermore, despite my attempts to explain as clearly as I can, the new 
installment betrays a persistent lack of understanding about the distinction 
between the term "human person" used by theologians and the notion of 
"personhood" defined by secular philosophy as the state of being 
self-conscious.  My explanation that science has discovered facts that define 
the latter concept with precision, and by virtue of this definition, rejected 
its exclusive confinement to humans (which is implied by the former theological 
term) does not seem to have registered in the author’s mind. He projects his 
confusion on to me.

I wonder what such a mentality would do if we ever encounter technologically 
advanced sentient and self-conscious non-human extraterrestrial beings in the 
future. Would it deny them personhood? Would it be morally unconcerned about 
killing them?

Above all, in the new installment there is a complete lack of recognition of 
the self-inflicted fact-free confusion that has led to the following 
superficialities, absurdities and calumnies:

1. The blatantly false charge that I would like people to believe that the act 
of destroying “a person in a coma, or a patient suffering from Alzheimer’s 
disease is not necessarily an act of murder.” Indeed, I have stated exactly the 
opposite, bolstering my argument that lack of personhood is no grounds to 
dismiss the charge of murder.

2. Gratuitous suffixing of a question mark after “Dr.” to question my 
undeclared credentials.

3. The absurd claim that science must have something to do with defining murder 
because “doctors are ‘morally’ responsible for ‘all’ the actions performed by 
them in their professional capacity”. By this simplistic logic, I guess, public 
transportation is also responsible for defining murder because a bus driver is 
clearly morally responsible for all his professional actions, which involve the 
responsibility for the lives of his passengers. The obvious question to ask the 
author is the following:

Which human being is not morally responsible for all his/her actions in his/her 
professional capacity?

4. The imposition that the author’s own religious morality regarding medical 
abortion and medical use of human embryos equals legality.

5. The absurd claim that science is grounded on faith, using pure gibberish 
about objective truth and epistemological relativism to ostensibly justify that 
claim. The author evidently believes his personal faith is based on objective 
truth. This mixing of religion and science is at the heart of the apple and 
mango confusion in which he finds himself. He is completely oblivious of the 
fact that faith is the exact opposite of objective evidence, and that other 
people’s faiths prescribe different moral dictates.

6. The faith-based claim that Ruchika is Ruchika “despite physiological, 
sociological, cultural and psychological changes” because of “mysterious 
design”, which science has not been able to decipher. An individual who was 
guided by objective evidence rather than his personal parochial faith would 
have been aware or receptive to the universally applicable scientific knowledge 
on the biological basis of constancy and variability of the human body and 
mind, and would have avoided making such a gaffe.

7. The transparently bogus claim that medical abortion would satisfy the 
following current legal definition of murder: “murder is the unlawful killing 
of a human being with malice aforethought.” Does he know the meaning of the 
words “unlawful”, “malice” and “aforethought”, one wonders? I hope he is not a 
judge or a lawyer.

8. Finally, the author’s insistence in the face of contradictions that he has 
engaged in a scientific argument, not a theological one. He appears to boast 
that he is fully capable of debating theology and refuting the well known fact 
that followers of other religions such as Judaism disagree with his just-stated 
“scientific” opinions that medical abortion or medical use of human embryos is 
murder because a zygote is a full human person. But then he sheepishly runs 
away from this debate by making a lame excuse. All he had to do was state a few 
pertinent facts and a simple rationale to directly address a substantive point, 
which he seems to be unable to do, relying instead on glib assertions and 
evasions.

The burden to substantiate empty rhetoric with facts rests on the author in 
question, and the organization or people he represents, as implied by his use 
of the collective pronouns “we”, “our” and “us”.

Cheers,

Santosh


--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Averthanus <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>     The public discussion on the evil of
> abortion brought to the fore some important assumptions
> which underlay the positions taken by some of the
> participants. These "assumptions" need to be addressed
> because they determine the conclusions reached by those who
> hold them. It will be helpful to the clarification of the
> position that abortion is intrinsically evil if we consider
> some of the arguments advanced by those who hold the view
> that the arbitrary termination of pregnancy is not an act of
> murder.  (Dr.?) Santosh A. Helekar claims that: "I had
> affirmed that science had nothing to do with defining
> murder. . ." This affirmation is both outlandish and
> illogical. 




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