VP, Below are some extracts from the Times of India forum, on the question "Why do you think Indians are being attacked in specific in Australia?" as previous attempts to send the link did not work as expected: http://qna.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/?ref=permalinkquestion&question_id=195490
ncomar Australia has so far been a very tolerant country with respect to letting all different nationalities come into their country and be a part of their society. Over the last 20 years, there have been so many Indians who have moved to Australia and are now citizens here. Common sense prevails, if there are more people of Indian origin in this country, they will surely be victims to the crimes that exist in this society. It's not like if someone is going to commit a crime, they look at your colour and your background. If you see the stats that prevail, white people are victims of such crimes as well. But hey ignorance is bliss! When it comes to getting on the streets and protesting without knowing facts, Indians are ace! I am an Indian by birth and I moved here 10 years ago. So far, I have never been discriminated against. It is a very fair country and I truly believe that people here are amazing. The 2 most recent cases that have been labelled as racist attacks are still under investigation. Nitin Garg was crossing through a park in one of the unsafe suburbs in Melbourne at 11.30 at night. Throughout the year there are incidents reported in that park. For the first time it was an Indian national - so what do we do - Label it as an racist attack. What about all the Caucasians that have died in that park. Again common sense prevails, when you know a park is unsafe and people don't walk through there during the day, why would you walk through there at 11.30pm?!? The other guy who died in Griffiths, he came to Australia on a contract marraige and owed people money... for all we know a fellow Indian could have killed him. Now calling Victoria Police names is not going to help the cause. There are procedures in place in this country and rationale exists. They don't operate like our Punjab police... thats right throw everyone in that neighbourhood in the jail and then people would go... 'OH WHAT A GREAT JOB THE COPS HAVE DONE'. Media has totally handled this situation in a BAD WAY! It's a shame to see that this baseless issue will affect the relations between the two countries. aughboy Lets gets the facts right, Indians are NOT being specifically attacked in Australia. There is violence in any big city and people get attacked and hurt, some unfortunately happen to be Indians, if you look at the actual reports you will find that more Australians are attacked than Indians. We (Indians) are NOT targets. While most Indians do very well, a small few resort to cheating and give the Indian student a bad repotation. Cheating includes, Providing false papers and qualifications so as to get Visas, Not attending class, not doing tier assigments and taking others peoples work. swarajdelhi If you are in a wrong place at a wrong time, irrespective of your nationality, gender, age etc, you will be the victim of violence. If you do not mix well with local culture and customs and keep pushing your own which may be deemed as anti-social, it will not be liked by the society and it can cause backlash which can be violent at times. After spending 10 years in Australia, I can say that majority of Australians are warm hearted, accept diversity in the society very well and our press and politician should rethink before labelling Australians as racist. shudai There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever, beyond the hysterical ranting of the Indian gutter press, that indians ARE being targetted. This is a pointless and foolishly leading question. Let's look at the last couple of attacks: Indian man stabbed: Indian press goes crazy. Later revealed that the attackers were other Indians and it was a business dispute. Deafening silence in Indian media. Man burned in car: Indian press goes crazy. Later revealed that the whole story was made up and that the man himself lit the fire. Deafening silence in Indian media. You are not served well by your media, but I guess that they are dealing to the needs of a horde of hysterical clowns who are over-eager to be stirred into a rabily howling frenzy. Honestly, this whole debate is based on so muc ignorance that it's just plain embarrasing. prabh1234 Well I am Indian and have lived in Brisbane for over 5 years, and am still here. I've never seen as many international students anywhere as I'm seeing here today. And let me tell you something, just because they're Indian doesn't mean they're innocent. A lot of these students (yes, a LOT) are Punjabi and lack basic manners and courtesy. They're very loud, have terrible hygiene and have no manners towards others. They also have a very bad habit of harassing girls over here, both Indian and Australian. I'm sick of seeing these munde ruin our reputation and quite frankly they don't deserve to even be here. Yes this doesn't apply to all students nor does it warrant racism towards all, but it is something to keep in mind when wondering why these things take place. rohinisrinivas The question should be 'Are Indians being targetted in Australia?' And the answer to that by an Indian woman who lives and works and travels alone here is 'No'. A 'news'paper cant make baseless assumptions inherent in this question. morgoth16 I studied at Monash in Melbourne for 5 years, never in my time there did i face any form of racism. However, i do not deny that it exists. Racism exists in Australia just as it does in India or anywhere else in the world. Indians are racist towards their own people, a North Indian calling a South Indian names and Vice-versa (yes this is racism). I loved my time in Australia. The people were accommodating, friendly and genuinely nice. I might get a real shellacking for whatever i post next, but i do feel it needs to be said. A lot of Indian students end up joining uni's that don't really provide you with a proper degree, their aim is to do a course such as accounting to get a PR and then drive taxi's. They exceed the 20 hrs a week allocated for students to work and work extra shifts at places such as Maccas, KFC and Subway. Herein lies the problem. These were generally places a young school going Australian kid would go for a job, however with the Indian students willing to work at all times the employer no longer has to have a discussion with local kids, who are sometimes picky about the shifts. Their culture has always been about working hard when needed and partying/having fun when required. The Indian mentality is about making the most of the provided opportunity and they go all out to make money while they are young. I know some people would argue that there is nothing wrong in that, there isn't if it is done in your own country and legally. Do not expect them to take it lying down when jobs are limited and foreigners are being preferred to locals. We have seen the resistance to such moves within India namely Maharashtra where the people from UP and Bihar were subjected to racism and physical violence by the Shiv Sena. Attacks on Indian students happen, just as attacks happen on Australians, Chinese or any other race in Australia. The media sensationalize the story to make it sell. All these attacks generally take place when students are out late partying or in localities where people are generally not all that well off. Crime is a problem in such localities and during the time of the day anywhere in the world. There are probably a few hundred attacks on Australians and other ethnic groups in the same day that hasn't been identified by ToI, what about those? Do not brand Australia a racist country based on what you hear or read. Its a wonderful country with wonderful hospitable people, go experience it for yourself and be wowed. ---- Original Message ---- > From: Venantius J Pinto <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thu, 21 January, 2010 2:06:53 PM > Subject: [Goanet] Attacks on Indians are racisit : Australia's ex-Army chief > > To All among Us on Goanet, > I would like to know whether any Goan, NRG or resident on Goanet explicitly > said that the attacks in Australia, were in any way not racist. Was it even > implied that the attacks and deaths must not be seen as racist. __________________________________________________________________________________ See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now: http://au.movies.yahoo.com/session-times/
