Funny world we live in. 

Hyperbolic quotes? If the article "Glacier variations and climate change in the 
central Himalaya over the past few decades" was indeed a scientifc paper, why 
was it not included in the IPCC report, rather than the tall claims made by the 
WWF?

Glaciers melt in the warm seasons (thus providing water flows for major river 
systems) and grow in winter. So measurements must be taken at the same time 
every year, with averages taken to iron out discrepancies due to vagaries of 
nature. 

Anyhow, read today's "Britain protests over false melting glacier claims" at 
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/britain-protests-over-false-melting-glacier-claims-1885157.html

Quote:
Britain has officially expressed its concern to the UN's Intergovernmental 
Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) about lax scientific procedures used by the body 
which supplies the world with the facts about global warming.
 
Evidence has emerged the IPCC made exaggerated claims in its last report in 
2007 about the melting of Himalayan glaciers by 2035, the destruction of the 
Amazon rainforest, and increased frequency of violent storms. The panel also 
used research that had not been peer-reviewed. That has prompted the British 
Government to communicate formally its disquiet to the IPCC and its chairman, 
Dr Rajendra Pachauri. 
Unquote

Also, "Glacier Melt Rate to Be Re-Examined By UN Panel (Update2) " at 
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601091&sid=a.Y7tFNVis00
 
Check also 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/7111356/Alan-Titchmarsh-Climate-scientists-should-stick-to-the-facts-and-not-use-guesswork.html
Quote:
We live on a volatile planet. The very term 'climate change' is tautological in 
that that is what climate does – change. It would be a great story indeed if 
there was no shift in the climate at all.
 But as anybody who's lived for more than 50 years knows, things seldom carry 
on happening at the same rate for very long. 
 
If you look back, there have been times in the planet's distant past – long 
before any human intervention – during which it has been very warm indeed. But 
nowadays, if you say this kind of thing, you're immediately branded as a 
climate change denier, which I find frustrating, particularly when it comes 
from scientists, who should be prepared to put all the facts on the table.
Unquote
 
Although I graduated from Dhempe College in Panjim majoring in Geology (under 
Prof Frank B Antao) way back in 1977, I haven't practiced the subject since 
graduation as I moved into the technological world of Computer Science 
immediately after. This, however, does not deter me from questioning the 
science (or non-science) of climatology.

Gabriel.

----- Original Message ----
> From: Santosh Helekar <[email protected]>
> To: estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list <[email protected]>
> Sent: Mon, 1 February, 2010 4:02:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Damning admission by Indian climate change scientist
> 
> The hyperbolic claims in the post appended below by global warming deniers 
> that 
> Himalayan glaciers are not receding, are bogus. Here is a 2006 peer-reviewed 
> scientific research article in the journal Annals of Glaciology giving us the 
> evidence for recession of Himalayan glaciers:
> 
> http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/igsoc/agl/2006/00000043/00000001/art00032
> 
> The title of the article is: "Glacier variations and climate change in the 
> central Himalaya over the past few decades"
> 
> Here is a documentary by the Asia Society demonstrating this fact to the lay 
> public:
> 
> http://asiasociety.org/onthinnerice
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Santosh
> 
> --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Gabriel de Figueiredo wrote:
> > 
> > The Australian pollies may have signed the Copenhagen
> > farce, but I doubt many Aussie people are in favour, bar the
> > young ones, who have been brainwashed by their leftist
> > teachers. 
> > 
> > Read about "The billion-dollar hoax" at 
> > 
> http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/the-billion-dollar-hoax/story-e6frfhqf-1225823736564
> > 
> > which describes how the rot started last November with the
> > leaking of emails from the Climatic Research Unit of
> > Britain's University of East Anglia, followed by the false
> > "Glaciers in the Himalaya are receding faster ... " claim
> > made by a little-known Indian scientist which made its way
> > into a paper by the green group WWF and from there, into the
> > IPCC 2007 report.
> > 
> > As I said before, the emphasis must be on reducing
> > pollution in all its forms, not just CO2.  And one way of
> > doing this, besides the obvious reduction in un-necessary
> > consumerism, is the reduction of population. (Note to Rico
> > -  this is not a furphy). The reasons for this is that our
> > planet earth has finite resources, and of these resources, a
> > major part of it (food and water) is dependent on the
> > weather. The availability of the rest (minerals) are also in
> > decline.  If we could reduce human population world-wide,
> > we could indeed "save the planet".
> > 
> > So, those who are claiming that "humans are the cause for
> > climate change", should start by reducing their use of
> > frequent-flyer points, a major cause of CO2 build-up in the
> > stratosphere as there are no CO2 absorbers (aka trees) out
> > there. 
> > 
> > Gabriel.
> >



      
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