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Ferdinando,
Here are my responses to the questions and comments in the latest abusive,
cranky and absurd post of yours.
--- On Thu, 11/18/10, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>The quantum of his ignorance stands exposed by the very fact that he has
>>dragged Mr. Nascimento in this , when Mr. Nascimento has not posted his
>>views at all on this thread.
>
This statement is illogical. Mentioning Nascimento's name has no bearing on
whether I am ignorant or not. The reason I referred to him is because of his
ignorant prejudicial statement below in one of his latest Goanet posts:
QUOTE
The so called Freedom Fighters are just all Fake, at least most of them. It is
the Indian Armed Forces that liberated? (annexed) Goa, if at all; not the
flimsy FFs!!
I knew of some of these guys whose main grouse used to be against the Bhatkars
and Gaunkaris of yesteryear. They were fighting for their 'personal' freedom,
alright! They are now 'given'/ handed out the 'cloak' of FF cover; like a
Burqa!!
UNQUOTE
.....Nascimento Caldeira
Please see:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-November/201567.html
>
> In my post I had only denied what Dr. Oscar had quoted.
>QOUTE:” It is an indisputable fact that for over 400 years, Goans were
>>subjugated to the worst human right abuses and tortures under the >Portuguese
>rule.” UNQUOTE.
>Does Santosh feel this statement is true?
>
I don't know for sure whether those in power in the 16th, 17th and 18th
centuries murdered, dismembered, tortured, raped, and incarcerated people, and
destroyed their temples, mosques and/or other property. I don't know for sure
whether they forcibly converted native Goans and imposed restrictions on their
lifestyle on pain of death, torture and/or imprisonment. I also don't know
which of these things, if any, people like Agente Monteiro did before 1961. I
don't know what sort of due process existed before 1961. That is why I asked
these questions.
Since you deny what Oscar stated, could you please answer my questions, and
tell me where you obtained your knowledge of 500 years of Portuguese history in
Goa?
>
> Santosh would do well if he corrects his English. I have not dragged >Saddam
> into the discussion. There is a vast difference between starting a
> >discussion and continuing one. I started it mentioning Saddam’s human
> >rights violation in comparison to Dr. Oscar’s claim.
>
This statement is illogical and boorishly absurd. If you mentioned Saddam's
human rights violations then you obviously dragged Saddam Hussein into this
discussion. What kind of crazy English makes you believe otherwise?
Here is the quote showing how you dragged Saddam Hussein into the discussion:
QUOTE
What Portuguese did in Goa was only maintaining STRICT discipline and quelling
anti-Portuguese movement. Saddam Hussein did the same (may be worse), but for
the sake of Iraq. The country prospered. What is its
fate now? Are the citizens safe and having better human rights with Saddam’s
elimination?
UNQUOTE
......Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão
Please see:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-November/201602.html
>
> There Santosh goes again dragging Mr. Nascimento. Why has he not >mentioned
> about <jc>’s post which reproduced available data?
>
I did not mention Jose's post because I have no basis to dispute the specific
facts stated by him. I have already stated why I mentioned Nascimento in
connection with Goan freedom fighters.
>
> Does Santosh feel these characters were different in their activities >than
> the Naxalites, Maoists or Terrorists? Or does he think that the data >is
> false and fabricated?
>
Some of the activities mentioned, if true, indicate to me that these characters
were lawbreakers and violent extremists. They were different from the
Naxalities, Maoists and terrorists because the activities stated indicate that,
unlike the latter, the former characters did not murder, dismember, torture and
rape anybody. They did not terrorize the population of Goa. I have no reason or
basis to believe that the facts stated by Jose are false and fabricated.
Cheers,
Santosh
