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    NEW BOOK:  'PATRIOTISM IN ACTION: Goans in Indias Defence Services'
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Quoting Selma Carvallo: 
"Lastly, coming to the matter of hygiene. I'm sorry but Indians have the worst 
hygiene standards, I personally have come across. I don't need statistics or 
surveys to back me up"...
 
Selma has been accused by some of being prejudiced against Indians for her views
on the India's hygiene-habit. I feel that this prejudice is justified somehow, 
and I would 
side with it only if there is something to be done about the issue of national 
attitude to filth
and not just point judgmental and holier than thou fingers.

The fact is that there is more dirt around/ about people in India; Indians are 
blaze about 
squalidness and dirt. We may try to justify it by giving several reasons if we 
want to, 
but since that does not help, there is no point in doing so. ( We must also 
realize that this nation
has suffered many a dictum like "brahma sttyam jaganmitthaa" = only Brahman is 
truth, 
all else that is manifest is false. Buddha and Shankara have done more harm to 
the vitality of this
great nation than a Micky Potcheko can ever hope to!)
I wonder if anything might actually work except by improvement in living 
conditions by eradication of poverty by effectively imposing a forked agenda of 
pragmatic, 
good and relevant education and control (for some years at least) of our 
national breeding
habit. It was there in place during India Gandhi's rule, perhaps it is still 
there but there is no 
way of implementing it effectively and yet be a democracy! (remember nasbandi 
during 1975?)
Also without the threat of going out of power. So it is catch 22. Besides, with 
a diversity like 
ours in a democratic set up only an impossible idealist can hope to get 
results, I guess.
I am ashamed to admit that we Indians have acquired a degenerate sense of 
hygiene than the 
rest of the world and, perhaps because of the high world standard of hygiene 
and 
cleanliness, India's own is way, way below substandard. (We may feel proud of 
the fact 
that these conditions can/could produce a Mother Teresa! Indeed there are great 
minds who 
actually feel proud of this fact. Lapierre's romantic flattery in "city of 
love" perpetuate all this)
   
I tend to agree with Selma regarding her reference to mindsets. That is so 
obvious from
our general  quality control standards. Take anything, from match sticks to 
machines, Indian quality
is substandard. Why, is that a fact? I may agree that we are improving by and 
by, and perhaps 
that is because we are also becoming reasonably richer collectively. 
So I believe that since all those who have commented on this thread have cut 
close to the aching nerve,
we are all aware of this situation(!) But rather than single one cause to blame 
I would try to understand 
India as a continuum, a civilization which is a palimpsest. To sort out its 
evils and eradicate them we need 
a couple of things: psychic Love for this wonderful nation ( no place for 
judgmental 
prejudice or prejudiced judgment there), and indefatigable patience with Indian 
people, who, 
fundamentally, are lovely people.

My thoughts above are loosely arranged without any attempt at making it a 
valid, analytical thesis. 
So, PLEASE, do not ask silly questions like what I mean by "Hindu politics" and 
the like.



                                          

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