Dears,

Let me offer my two bits on this great 'intellectual' and 'faith-bound' discussion/debate.

All said and done, the Catholic Church, has, according to me, forgotten everything about the kind of life that ' JESUS CHRIST' lived and the principles that he died for. The Catholic Church is only 'HOCKING' the name of 'JESUS CHRIST' by enacting dramas, day-in-and-day-out which gives it the immunity to worship the 'DEVIL' and do everything that is against the principles of the living and dying Jesus Christ, one of them being, in Goa's context, the selling off lands [Souto Maior Estate - Vanxim Island in Goa] which were willed to the Church for the benefit of the 'common man' and which has been pointed out by JC [not Jesus Christ].

I believe that the 'CATHOLIC CHURCH' will do better if it tried to UNDERSTAND the very meaning of the 'last supper' which is the culmination sum total of Jesus's life and which is is enacted as the everyday mass [ hollow ritual] for the consumption of the common man, to UNDERSTAND what He [JC] meant when He had raised the wine laden cup in the last toast to His disciples. What the so called Catholic Church is doing is just a mockery of those words 'DO IT IN MEMORY OF ME'. In all probability, the Catholic Church is doing just the opposite, where, perhaps, no one, but no one has ever been ready to die for the principles that Jesus Christ Himself set and lived by, but are USING HIM AND HIS LIFE as some SUPER HUMAN phenomenon, which things are not possible for a mere mortal to follow, meaning, "I am a weakling and therefore I surrender to all vices'. Plus there is some fantastic thing like 'the Confession', a veritable laundry machine which says " however much muck ladden you may be, go thro this laundry machine and you come out dazzling clean'.

And, there is 'joke' to it where a young boy goes for a confession and says he has sinned. From the confessor: 'was it Mary?.... so on and so forth, untill the young man comes out to boast to his waiting friends " I have four more names"




Cheers
floriano
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PS1: I may be a little out of context here, because I haven't read through the long and arduous writing of Fr. Desmond De Souza, since anything like this I believe, without being offensive, is a pure waste of time.
PS2: When I say 'JC' I do not mean Jose Collaco - JC    :-)

----- Original Message ----- From: "Edwin/Diana Pinto" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goanet The Challenge to the Church in Goa: Revivalismor Renewal?



What the Church needs perhaps, is to inculcate integrity in its workings and fundamentals. Whether it is a "inculturated" or "European colonial" or "revivalist" or "renewed" Church, there is not much difference and it really does not matter if it does not have integrity and humility. For example, the Church in Goa, is still silent on its various misdemeanours like selling of land etc. How can the Church have any moral authority if it does not openly and humbly apologise for the past and admit its human failings. Merely expecting the world from the laity and imposing burdens on them, does not help, even if the Church's top leadership has "changed its direction", but only intellectually, and not emotionally from the heart.

Diana Pinto


Fr Desmond de Sousa CSsR wrote

Since the renewal process of the Church initiated by the
Second Vatican Council (1962-65), many serious efforts to
break with the colonial past have been attempted. But studies
show that the greatest blocks to genuine renewal are the
traditionalism of the clergy and the lethargy of the laity.
Both these blocks are consequences of their colonial past.

        > The laity however, are deeply divided about the pace and
direction of change that renewal demands. A paradigm shift in
faith formation is needed. They need a more inductive
reflection on the daily realities of life to discover the
challenge of God acting within these realities, rather than
the traditional deductive process of learning abstract truths
of faith by heart.



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