My dear Gabriel,

Even individuals of our respective seniority should be able to work it out that 
there is NO real interest in "settling any doubt".  Ask yourself the following 
questions:

a: what was the main impetus for the European nations coming together, albeit 
imperfectly?

b: which category of individuals (in both the countries - now, perpetually in 
doubt ) have the greatest interest in keeping the doubt unsettled ?

It must be stated, however, that many nations with grouchy and avaricious 
neighbors struggle to keep peace with this set of folks I call 'kestaumkars' 
who can suddenly decide that they want to take control. Credit is due to the 
Indian politicians. They have thus far managed to keep them at bay. The Pakis 
have not been so lucky, the Bonglabandhus  neither.

And, India has "opened up" significantly over the past 2 decades. 

As an aside, the very nation which caused the other nations to come together to 
form the precursor of the EU, is now controlling the EU by way of finances.

best

jc



On May 28, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Gabriel de Figueiredo 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Victor,
>  
> Thank you for insight. Given your seniority, I would think you were present 
> at the time of the independence of India. What is the bone of contention 
> between India and Pakistan? Why wasn't the "doubt" setlled there and then by 
> a plebiscite which was been promised but not yet realised? So who or what 
> caused the paranoia since then?
>  
> How come some countries are "freer" and more "trusting" than others? If you 
> have the answer, then you will know why the paranoia. That goes for the 
> ridiculous visa rules too which only India has, and then India cries foul 
> when other countries try to play likewise. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Gabriel.
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Victor Rangel-Ribeiro <[email protected]>
>> To: Gabriel de Figueiredo <[email protected]>; "Goa's premiere 
>> mailing list, estb. 1994!" <[email protected]> 
>> Sent: Sunday, 27 May 2012 2:43 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Lisbon Tram Ride (Part 1) - YouTube
>> 
>> 
>> Dear Gabriel,
>>      Unfortunately for you, but imagine how delighted certain groups from 
>> Pakistan would be if they could have a virtual tour of Bombay's streets, if 
>> they were armed to the teeth and looking for targets! What seems like 
>> paranoia to you might seem like plain common sense to others.
>>      Warm regards,
>>      Victor
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Gabriel de Figueiredo <[email protected]>
>> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <[email protected]> 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 7:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Lisbon Tram Ride (Part 1) - YouTube
>> 
>> Even better, you can take a virtual tour of most streets of Lisbon (and most 
>> European streets) via Googlemaps :-)  
>>  
>> Unfortunately such detail is "not permitted" in India and other paranoid 
>> countries.
>> 
>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Con Menezes <[email protected]>
>>> To: Goanet <[email protected]> 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2012 2:43 PM
>>> Subject: [Goanet] Lisbon Tram Ride (Part 1) - YouTube
>>>   
>>> Enjoy sightseeing in Lisbon by tram.
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgRtYYVSRRI
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 

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