Dear Gilda, Thank you. Your response is exactly what I have always hoped Goanet could be. Not the self assuaging, aggrandizing, and adumbration we see here only too often. We as a people are pretty much done with, meaning that we are being done with. The loss is upon us both Hindus and Christians. But, its sharing such as yours that vivifies, and validates our Goan being.**
I will ponder on apparent root of patmaar, pato marinho. PERHAPS, Goanetters could state their preference. Also, corrections, suggestions, heckling all permitted. :) The poem posted earlier is called Okee Pokee 01. patmaar Mukut(am) ani noketram, ani patmar Ani udnare ajgar zencam assa ghungureleleo shempdeo "Tem(/tench) ek vastra," Ranient mhuntlem, "zem kednach chukonam Patteeant soglea lokanche dolle borunc. 02. pato marinho Mukut(am) ani noketram, ani pato marinho Ani udnare ajgar zencam assa ghungureleleo shempdeo "Tem(/tench) ek vastra," Ranient mhuntlem, "zem kednach chukonam Patteeant soglea lokanche dolle borunc. I believe it is fine and important in Konkanim to use more than one or more words for the same. A small example would be livre, book, and pustok. I am not for pustak thought, which can stay in Marathi and which I speak pretty decently. Its also not as that people even remotely have a large Kokanim vocabulary to have issues with having to deal with more than one word for the same. There is more to using more than one word which only a few can relate to. The word party is another good example. Appreciate your intervention, and thanks again to Alfred de Tavares for offering, patmar (patmaar). (Btw, a lovely set of names Ana Angela Joana (de Anjuna).) ++++++++++++ venantius j pinto > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 15:11:20 +0100 > From: Gilda Ant?o <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Goanet] patmar > > My mother Ana Angela Joana (born Drago) from Anjuna, would oftten tell us > as we sat at Morgim beach some 40/50 years ago watching the patmars passing > by that their original name was "pato marinho" and was then shortened to > patmar as it was easy for people. Apparently her father owned 2/3 of > these.
