This is certainly an intriguing idea, but I'm worried about the resources 
required for such an adventure and the lack of resources available. It would 
depend heavily on whether the gain is worth the initial output.

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From: "Sergio Tortosa Benedito" <serto...@gmail.com>
To: <gobolinux-devel@lists.gobolinux.org>
Subject: [gobolinux-devel] Package management
Date: Tue, Feb 10, 2015 6:15 PM


Here's the post, I hope you like it
https://sheosisthoughts.wordpress.com/2015/02/11/the-way-of-bundling/ ( BTW
if anyone it's in doubt sheosi it's my name). bpm, indeed, Limba has not
much more than that as it's still a young project, though there's more from
OSTree ( it's even going to be used in Fedora 22) .

2015-02-10 23:13 GMT+01:00 Sergio Tortosa Benedito <serto...@gmail.com>:

> I've readed poettering's posts, and what I don't like from it is the
> dependency from btrfs, I don't like to depend on a feature of a technology,
> not that much at least, and I find that limba packages and poettering's
> snapshots can be made to work together ( I mean the bundles could still be
> transformed to btrfs snapshots). BTW, I'm writing the post :) .
>
> 2015-02-10 20:42 GMT+01:00 mpb <mpb.m...@gmail.com>:
>
>> > On 9 February 2015 at 17:18, Sergio Tortosa Benedito <
>> serto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Right now we rely on Install and Compile, but I've been thinking about
>> >> changing the package management way. Lately, there's been a shift
>> towards
>> >> bundles, and I find Gobo a perfect fit for this. I thought we could
>> use a
>> >> bundling system called Limba for applications and a something like
>> OStree
>> >> for the main OS. What do you think?
>> >> PD: I'm aware this is thinking big but it's something should be
>> defined.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Liam Proven <lpro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I had to go and Google these projects, but now that I have a very
>> > vague general understanding of what they do, I see your point.
>> >
>> > However, this is proposing very major changes to a distro that is
>> > already critically under-staffed at the moment anyway.
>> >
>> > Might I suggest that you write up 2 or 3 detailed descriptions of what
>> > both of these things would mean, separately and jointly, explaining
>> > what Limba and OSTree are, what benefits they would bring, what costs,
>> > etc.? That way people could judge for themselves without having to go
>> > and do possibly hours of research.
>>
>> Here are the links I found when searching for Limba and OSTree.
>>
>>
>> http://blog.tenstral.net/2014/11/introducing-limba-a-software-installer-experiment.html
>>
>> https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/OSTree
>>
>> The Limba post references this "famous blogpost" by Lennart Poettering
>> from September 2014.
>>
>> http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html
>>
>> After a cursory review, it seems to me Poettering's proposal offers
>> solutions to many of the problems that motivated the creation of Gobo.
>> Given Poettering's influence and record of accomplishment, I'd
>> recommend the Gobo devs take a look at it.
>>
>> There is also this comment on the Limba post:
>>
>> Jasem Mutlaq commented on 29. January 2015:
>> [Limba has a] Refreshing approach, but with all the work done in Nix
>> and Lennart’s proposal, I think most developers are going to sit and
>> wait until ONE proposal gains real cross-distro tracktion, just like
>> Systemd did
>>
>> -mpb
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