Dead seems a too strong word, in my opinion. ;)

GoboLinux is more like Princess Aurora and the seven dwarves - the former
just needs a
kiss to wake up.

I myself actually wanted to send out some instructions how to use that ruby
project that
I am using to compile stuff (I even fixed a few show-stoppers), but I got
side-tracked with
other things which have more priority right now. I did write an initial
skeleton though, and
stored it as a markdown .md file - eventually I will publish this (after
testing it out thoroughly
on a vanilla GoboLinux install) but it's hard to predict when that will
happen. So I can
understand it fairly well when other projects or reallife-related
activities keep things on
a small fuel.

For GoboLinux itself, I think the best would be to be able to transition
into a state where
people can more easily:

a) compile a program from source successfully (no matter how), and have
that work

and

b) install some binary that was already compiled

Both a) and b) are a bit cumbersome right now due to various reasons. I
myself got
frustrated a lot with "non-standard" programs in regards to installation -
docbook*
related stuff is an example (see the BLFS instructions for that here:
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/pst/sgml-dtd.html
), but there are more programs that are a bit annoying. Glib-schema files
for
example; or qt + kde5 plasma. To give an example... okular, the kde PDF
viewer,
was not working for me despite it compiling successfully. It took me a
while until
I somehow found out, through google (!), that it requires a certain
directory called
plugin/ - and if it can not find it, it will send out very useless error
messages that
do not help quite a lot. :\ :/

I compiled most of KDE5 plasma successfully here and I can even start kde5
although the bottom panel is missing (which makes this quite annoying), but
other than that, windows/widgets appear just fine. No clue how to resolve
this
and I am notoriously lazy - I kind of wait until this problem resolves
itself on
its "own". Actually that surprisingly works quite well - I am using
mate-desktop
right now, for example, all compiled from source. (The ruby project I use
was
sort of inspired by GoboLinux, since I am too stupid to understand shell
scripts in general. In my opinion, lack of information is an area where open
source could improve the most, e. g. by providing more documentation in
general - I don't mean this just in regards to GoboLinux, but really more
general. See the LFS/BLFS project - it really collects a LOT of useful
information and you can follow updates here:
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/cvs/introduction/changelog.html
)

Anyway to your question:

- I think the GoboLinux philosophy should work fine on the BSD* flavours.
I may be wrong but I think that was one idea of ... goboroot was it? The one
where you can compile things relative to e. g. your home directory or
another
prefix, so that should work on the BSDs too. Not sure if anyone has tried
it.
The gobo kernel patch may in principle also work on BSD but I have no
knowledge how the BSD kernels work (nor that I have any real experience
in regards to the linux kernel, but I did compile the linux kernel from
source
successfully several times).

In my opinion the flexibility that linux has is actually the primary reason
why
it is "better" than BSD. But there should be no net-difference for when you
wish to get a GoboLinux layout on the BSDs. From experience, though,
for about 20 linux users at best there will be 1 BSD user ... :\

I used to tinker with some BSDs too, in particular the old PC-BSD (now has
some other name which I keep on forgetting). It also had a vaguely similar
approach to "app-dirs" ... but I am not sure how far it progressed.

Actually the biggest blocker IMO is, aside from lack of time, knowledge how
things fit together. But I am pretty confident that the mate-desktop can
work
on GoboLinux quite fine; in fact, I have most of it under /Programs/ here,
although I am using a modified slackware as base. (The only thing confusing
me is how glib-schema files work ... which is also a bit annoying ... and
when
you don't have that knowledge, you are kind of semi-stuck ...)



On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 12:26 PM S. Sliackus <ssliac...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you, Lucas.
>
> This basically means, that Gobolinux is dead again. Very sad.
> I have philosophical question then. I mean, how complicated it would be to
> implement those same system layout improvements on FreeBSD, for example? On
> a paper it looks like BSD has more chances to succeed (even that is not
> coming).
>
> Thanks
> S.
> On 12/02/2019 07:48, Lucas C. Villa Real wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I did have plans for a new ISO, indeed. At first, the intention was to
> have it shipped by the end of 2018. I've had a full year, though, and could
> not meet that self-imposed deadline.
>
> Now, life events are likely to postpone that release even further. I do
> not expect to be actively working on the project this year. I'll still be
> here to help anyone willing to take the lead on a new release, though.
>
> Thanks,
> Lucas
>
>
> Em dom, 10 de fev de 2019 07:49, Robert Alexander <sheve...@gmail.com
> escreveu:
>
>> I can not speak for lucas and hisham, but I seem to remember that lucas
>> wrote,
>> some time ago, that there will be a new GoboLinux release in 2019.
>>
>> I don't know if any of this has changed or not.
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