On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 9:40:09 PM UTC+8, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 10:47 PM, T L <tapi...@gmail.com <javascript:>>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 1:11:32 AM UTC+8, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 6:47 AM, T L <tapi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 4:46:52 PM UTC+8, Dave Cheney wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> What is a pointer wrapper value?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > struct {
> >> > p *T
> >> > }
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> in all seriousness, if you review the git history of the Go spec
> you'll
> >> >> find the word "reference" was purged about two years ago, in effect,
> to
> >> >> try
> >> >> to stem these discussions.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yes, I found many old docs and old web pages are still using the word
> >> > "reference value".
> >> > I think it is an unnecessary word. The concepts of values and pointer
> >> > values
> >> > are sufficient to understand Golang values well.
> >>
> >> I have a minor objection. I don't know what a "reference value" is.
> >> Alan spoke about "reference types", and sometimes, in the past, before
> >> we realized that it was confusing, the Go docs also talked about
> >> "reference types."
> >>
> >> I don't think we ever talked about "reference values." Perhaps a
> >> "reference value" is a value whose type is a "reference type."
> >> However, people (not Go people, computer programming people in
> >> general) also talk about "passing by reference" as opposed to "passing
> >> by value", so combining the two opposing terms "reference" and "value"
> >> into a single phrase is confusing.
> >
> > This faq, "Why are maps, slices, and channels references while arrays
> are
> > values?", https://golang.org/doc/faq#references.
> > thinks maps, slices, and channels are references. I think the
> "references"
> > here means "reference values".
>
> As Marvin said in his reply, it doesn't.
>
> I'm not trying to say that "reference value" could not have a meaning.
> I'm saying that I've never seen that phrase before, and given the long
> history of discussions using these words I find it confusing.
>
> Ian
>
Is it a good idea to remove the reference words from faq?
Go spec did this 3 years ago.
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