Thanks, Amnon, for that well known quote from the Python world. Python has been one of my favorite languages for around 20 years. Even had the honor of meeting Guido while we were both working at Google a while back.
Please, Python, do not integrate a dependency management system into your language and force all Pythonistas to use it! (Actually, my recollection is that quote was a swipe at the competing Perl language, whose motto is "there is more that one way to do it" :) On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 11:38:39 PM UTC-8 Amnon wrote: > > *There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it. * > From the Zen of Python. > But also good advice for Gophers. > > On Friday, 26 February 2021 at 01:03:00 UTC skinne...@gmail.com wrote: > >> I have a wonderful video of a GO program I wrote over 5 years ago which >> will not compile today due to my failure to vendor one lost module. I too >> had multiple paths in my GOPATH and it varied upon the client. I consider >> the new modules an improvement but the adaptation has not been without pain. >> >> For students who are experimenting and testing and trying things, and >> only running and compiling locally, a single experimental repository with a >> doc.go file and v0.0.0 module for an experimental pkg and cmd works very >> very well and if they do create a useful abstraction then they can refactor >> and publish the result with ease at the end of the semester after they have >> a mastery of the language. >> >> I have a student using vscode and my vscode is complaining that my Go1.16 >> installation does not have a GOPATH. >> >> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 6:36:36 PM UTC-6 mar...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> Given the writing on the wall that GOPATH is going away, what I have >>> done is created a single module where I keep all my own code, each >>> different experiment in its own subdirectory. I named it "github.com/...", >>> but never submitted it to github, so in the future I can do that without >>> too much fuss if I wanted to. >>> >>> Having been writing Go heavily since 1.2, I find the >>> all-code-in-one-module approach to be the easiest so far. >>> >>> -- Marcin >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 4:21 PM Bob Alexander <bobj...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Agreed -- module mode is great for "delivered code". But in a personal >>>> single machine single developer environment, all the extra complexity and >>>> manual overhead might not worth it. I'd guess that most students and >>>> hobbyists don't even use SCMs. My point was that GOPATH mode is good for >>>> them. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 1:38 PM Robert Engels <ren...@ix.netcom.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> That is 100% true but a important point is that using GOPATH requires >>>>> manual dependency management via ‘vendoring’. This can be very labor >>>>> intensive and error prone - leading to security issues in your delivered >>>>> code. >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 25, 2021, at 3:08 PM, Bob Alexander <bobj...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> GOPATH mode does *not *limit your Go code to a single directory. I've >>>>> seen this misunderstanding stated in probably hundreds of various posts. >>>>> >>>>> $GOPATH allows specification of multiple directories. I've used that >>>>> capability for several years to distribute my Go code to my personal >>>>> general library and to various application-specific libraries. Each of >>>>> the >>>>> multiple GOPATH directories refers to a Go "workspace", so the result is >>>>> my >>>>> general library workspace plus mini-workspaces in various application >>>>> directories -- each with src, pkg, and bin subdirectories. A single go >>>>> install installs all workspaces specified in your GOPATH at once, or you >>>>> can selectively build by temporarily changing the GOPATH. >>>>> >>>>> This is a pretty good setup for me, a decades-experienced software >>>>> engineer working in "programmer" mode for my personal development. >>>>> >>>>> Go's goal of ending GOPATH mode sounds like a choice to serve the >>>>> professional software engineer, and not the personal programmer. Module >>>>> mode is a good thing if you are publishing your code, but is a lot of >>>>> additional labor and cognitive load for us "programmers". >>>>> >>>>> I wonder if this might discourage adoption of Go by certain categories >>>>> such as college and high school students, non-software-engineer >>>>> professionals who write internal programs for their business, and curious >>>>> folks who want to introduce themselves to Go. It is soooo much easier to >>>>> set up my environment with GOPATH mode. In attempting conversion to >>>>> MODULE >>>>> mode, I've spent lots of frustrating hours and it's still not working >>>>> perfectly! >>>>> >>>>> So, I am +1 for retention of GOPATH mode (as well as MODULE mode), >>>>> allowing Go users to make the choice of MODULE vs. GOPATH based on their >>>>> needs. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "golang-nuts" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to golang-nuts...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/golang-nuts/CAKyHfRPYgop6YPgk3AcJ4Q43NgV%3D9KP%3DzgYja8Z6FJuc0UuPig%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/golang-nuts/CAKyHfRPYgop6YPgk3AcJ4Q43NgV%3D9KP%3DzgYja8Z6FJuc0UuPig%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "golang-nuts" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to golang-nuts...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/golang-nuts/CAKyHfRPw125S_800nhBxV9UrqHCaet-8WAO2q%2B1Xah3dhNiS5w%40mail.gmail.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/golang-nuts/CAKyHfRPw125S_800nhBxV9UrqHCaet-8WAO2q%2B1Xah3dhNiS5w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "golang-nuts" group. 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