Oh, forgot to mention: The code I linked to has been moved or removed in
master, vs. go 1.16. So the time of "when the implementation changes" might
be "now" :)

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 2:11 AM Axel Wagner <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> not an expert, but.
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 11:19 PM Reto <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Now, as far as I can tell this forces non stdlib packages to adhere to
>> exactly that.
>> As far as I can tell x/sys is just a common namespace for the go authors,
>> but
>> as far as the compiler itself is concerned, that's a normal module not
>> the stdlib.
>
>
>> Or is this a wrong assumption?
>>
>
> I think you are correct in that the compiler does not give `x/sys` special
> treatment.
>
> However, `x/sys` is still somewhat special, in that, as its maintained by
> the Go team, they can make sure that `x/sys` stays up to date with regards
> to implementation details. That is, the documentation of the `unsafe` rules
> is more strict than it needs to be currently, to reserve the right to
> change the implementation in the future. And `x/sys` can use a more lenient
> interpretation, because if that implementation changes, it will be changed
> in lockstep.
>
> Furthermore, I'm not sure that the compiler gives `syscall` special
> treatment either. At least a cursory grep through `cmd/compile` for
> "syscall" seems to give few hits. The most relevant seems
>
> https://github.com/golang/go/blob/release-branch.go1.16/src/cmd/compile/internal/gc/esc.go#L386
> which notably isn't restricted to `syscall` - it applies to any function,
> AIUI. This could basically mean that while the rule *states* "passing to
> syscall.Syscall", it actually exempts any call, because the special casing
> has not been done yet. But a future version *might*, so the rule still is
> more specific.
>
> So, in short:
> 1. yes, technically `x/sys` is not `syscall`, but you should probably
> treat them as the same thing, functionally. Maybe the `unsafe` docs should
> reflect that.
> 2. the rules are more restricted than what the implementation currently
> allows.
> 3. `x/sys` can follow the rules-as-implemented, because if the
> implementation changes, so will `x/sys` - stdlib or not.
>
>
>>
>> Reason I ask is because the code in x/sys clearly violates that rule.
>>
>> in unix/ioctl.go there's
>>
>> ```
>> // IoctlSetPointerInt performs an ioctl operation which sets an
>> // integer value on fd, using the specified request number. The ioctl
>> // argument is called with a pointer to the integer value, rather than
>> // passing the integer value directly.
>> func IoctlSetPointerInt(fd int, req uint, value int) error {
>>         v := int32(value)
>>         return ioctl(fd, req, uintptr(unsafe.Pointer(&v)))
>> }
>> ```
>>
>> and the declaration of ioctl in zsyskall_linux.go:
>>
>> ```
>> func ioctl(fd int, req uint, arg uintptr) (err error) {
>>         _, _, e1 := Syscall(SYS_IOCTL, uintptr(fd), uintptr(req),
>> uintptr(arg))
>>         if e1 != 0 {
>>                 err = errnoErr(e1)
>>         }
>>         return
>> }
>> ```
>>
>> Now, for starters ioctl includes a pointless conversion of a uintptr to a
>> uintptr,
>> for the arg parameter can anyone tell me why?
>>
>> Second (and this is my actual question), isn't that in violation of the
>> unsafe
>> constraints cited above?
>>
>> IoctlSetPointerInt clearly converts a unsafe.Pointer to a uintptr and
>> *doesn't*
>> directly call syscall.Syscall.
>>
>> Why is this valid?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Reto
>>
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