Hey Carter --
The CSE Element was launched at Google I/O, and it was announced with ads.
 It has never not had ads, so we're not serving up an unwanted surprise.  I
apologize if there was any confusion.

Thanks,
Ben

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Vision Jinx <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Hey Jeremy! :)
>
> Yeah, that's what I kinda figured as well. I was helping someone with
> a CSE example and the first draft when I posted it didn't show ads but
> when I went back to add some updates to it PLOP ads in my face once
> again.
>
> I do get that some ppl want to add ads in the API so can see Google
> adding the ability for revenue sharing but I sure hope they are not
> forcing them on us (like in the early days) and I am interested to see
> how they plan on adding them in the RESTful API since I can parse the
> JSON data how I wish and there is/was no stipulation saying I much
> parse and use all the json data provided.
>
> But on the other hand I don't like these surprises at all and if I was
> using the Google loaders in my apps then with out notice I had ads
> once again that would (for me anyways) be a sure fire way to drop this
> API once and for all. Also, since so many people have added this api
> to their sites then to make an un-announced change like this is pretty
> low IMHO. :/ Just like how Digg did the URL hijacking after millions
> have used their URL shortner service to point to their pages/articles
> only to later have Digg redirect them all to their site (to increase
> the number of ads they serve) or the same with AT&T recently modifying
> their TOS with out notice to prevent people from filing class action
> law suits against them... This just makes one loose all trust in a
> company with these techniques. (again IMHO)
>
> Well, anyways hoping to hear what Ben has to say on it and will chat
> with ya more in the IRC man! :P
>
>
> On Aug 11, 6:29 am, Jeremy Geerdes <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Well, I have good news and bad news. The good news is that the example
> > you linked to is a CSE Custom Search Control. Since one of the big
> > reasons people use the Custom Search Engine is to take advantage of
> > its ability to utilize AdSense, and CSE results have ads in them
> > either way, it seems an appropriate addition to the Custom Search
> > Control. The bottom line here is that ads are not (yet?) included with
> > a default search control or other search results. The second url that
> > you provided would appear to be an as-yet undocumented Ads API which
> > is apparently designed as a companion to the Search API.
> >
> > That said, the bad news is that the Search API's TOU do clearly
> > indicate that Google has the right to include ads among the results.
> > So there is no guarantee that they won't end up forcing ads on us at
> > some point in the future.
> >
> > Jeremy R. Geerdes
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> > Des Moines, IA
> >
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> >
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> > communication are given in US dollars.
> >
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> > Wesleyan Church!
> >
> > And check out my blog, Adventures in Web Development, athttp://
> jgeerdes.blogspot.com
> >   !
> >
> > On Aug 11, 2009, at 3:51 AM, Vision Jinx wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > I remember in the very early days of this API there use to be ads and
> > > after a lot of posts against them Google removed them from the API.
> >
> > > Now I am seeing these ads again across the top and side bar. (run a
> > > search for 'ajax')
> >
> > >http://savedbythegoog.appspot.com/?id=ag5zYXZlZGJ5dGhlZ29vZ3ISCxIJU2F.
> ..
> >
> > > I hate ads (as much as jgeerdes hates IE) and want to know if Google
> > > is going to be forcing ads on ppl again. If this is so, I would like
> > > to know asap so I can drop yet another Google service once and for all
> > > and will no longer be supporting this API either as a result (just
> > > like I did with the Gadgets API).
> >
> > > Also, if using the JSON/JSONP Restful api do I need to display them
> > > again like in the old days or opt to not at all? Has there been an un-
> > > announced TOS change regarding this and what are Googles plans for
> > > this? Since I am not doing this as part of AdSense revenue sharing I
> > > don't want ads at all on my site, while I can see those who insist on
> > > plastering their results with advertisements have asked for this
> > > ability. Fine, I don't have to use their pages or results but
> > > seriously don't want them in mine.
> >
> > > Google (Ben), can you please comment on this for me (or send me an
> > > email), you know I have been an API supporter since day one but this
> > > will be a deal breaker for me I am afraid.
> >
> > > Also, what other aspect of this API do you plan on plastering unwanted
> > > ads in (feed, translation etc etc)?
> >
> > > Offending code is this...
> >
> > >http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/services/ads/afs?q=ajax&hl=en&ad=n4&s.
> ..
> >
> > > This is exactly why I don't use the Google loaders and only use the
> > > RESTful aspects of the API so I don't get these unwanted surprises.
> > > Time to check out Bing or something else I guess. But I really hate
> > > these un-announced surprised and am losing a lot of respect for Google
> > > as a result. :(
> >
> > > Regards,
> > > Vision Jinx
> >
>

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