This forum has always had a very positive tone, and I for one would like to keep it that way. I understand that there is frustration surrounding the deprecation of the Translate and other APIs, but there is no reason for us to be slamming each other around. Bottom line: be civil.
Jeremy R. Geerdes Generally Cool Guy Des Moines, IA For more information or a project quote: jrgeer...@gmail.com If you're in the Des Moines, IA, area, check out Debra Heights Wesleyan Church! On May 31, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Zdravko Gligic wrote: > Legally, while they appear to be 100% in the right, it is interesting > what a U.S. judge would say to their "good faith" practices. > > Morally, and as far as "good faith" is concerned, they have acted > totally carelessly and without any signed of prudency. > > Finally, you sound like a consultants who is heavily with your > you-know-what, up their you-know-what. > > > On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:07 PM, pthurmond <patrick.thurm...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> Every dang one of you are really freaking out and acting like Google >> owes you something. They don't owe anyone squat. Truth be told I have >> seen thousands of new applications developed around this free service >> and no one was compensating Google for it at all. Stop complaining >> about losing your free handouts people. >> >> This air of entitlement that some of you are spewing is just >> disgusting. This isn't about Google's greed and selfishness, its about >> your own. >> >> Good lord, give something away for free and people expect you to keep >> doing it, even if it becomes an excessive burden to you. They think of >> it as their right to have it. Guess what, its not a right of yours. >> When you rely on freebies and handouts to hold yourself or your >> business up you are doomed to fail. >> >> Now don't get me wrong, I think it really sucks that they are shutting >> down and I do think that they should offer a paid option such as a >> subscription or a per translation fee. It is short-sighted that they >> are not offering a paid option. But you have to remember, they have >> been giving this away. This is not a human right. Suck it up people! >> >> Put all your eggs in one basket and eventually you will lose all your >> eggs. >> >> Thanks, >> Patrick >> >> On May 29, 11:36 pm, sami <sami....@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Shameful >>> >>> Transliterate is going down too - apparently Google hates its South >>> Asian users.... >>> >>> On May 29, 6:57 am, Zdravko Gligic <zgli...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Except if it was not for the fact that those economic burdens did not >>>> happen overnight and the fact that they acted totally in bad faith by >>>> following Translate v1 with v2. It is not like v1 was not around for >>>> a few years and as if these economic burdens were sudden. All of that >>>> adds up to an extreme case of ACTING IN BAD FAITH and which would most >>>> likely succeed in a class action lawsuit that was waged by those who >>>> got ruined by this bad faith. Obviously, to Google, copyrights and >>>> TOS are something with which it wipes its but (when others' interests >>>> are considered) and its face. >>> >>>> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Jeremy Geerdes <jrgeer...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> "Google reserves the right in its discretion to cease providing all or >>>>> any part of a Deprecated Version of the Service immediately without >>>>> any notice if... (c) providing the Deprecated Version of the Service >>>>> could create a >>>>> substantial economic burden on Google as determined by Google in its >>>>> reasonable good faith judgment." >>> >>>>> Google has claimed that maintaining the Translate API is a economic >>>>> burden because of the abuse of the API. The way this clause is written, >>>>> they most certainly can discontinue the service today, without any notice. >>> >>>>> Jeremy R. 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