okies Great.. please update on the group for others benefit as well. I find it pretty time consuming to build JSF apps w/o IDE support in case of GAE apps. Thankx and Regards
Vik Founder www.sakshum.com www.sakshum.blogspot.com On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Derek Berube <[email protected]>wrote: > IMHO, the most important things that the Google AppEngine Plug-In for > Eclipse does is: > > - Provide the ability to "create" a new AppEngine project. > - Launch the AppEngine runtime environment so you can test/debug your > code. > - Package and upload your AppEngine application to Google's cloud > infrastructure. > > > Most of the other things that Eclipse does (code completion/tips) work just > fine with the 2.0 API. About the only thing I find myself struggling with > is remembering all the options for the markup for the various tags you use > (whether it's the default JSF HTML components, ADF Faces, ICEFaces, > RichFaces, etc.). Of course, help is never more than a browser window away. > > I know that the 1.81 release of the ICEFaces runtime environment is > supposed to work on GAE. I think RichFaces has problems because it uses > some of the AWT classes internally and those classes are not available in > the GAE runtime environment. > > As a general rule, when I'm learning a new API or technology, I tend to > prefer to do things the "hard way". For me, it is a better way to get to > know how things work because you're forced to. Once one understands how and > why things work the way they do and after they have endured the "hard way", > then they can appreciate what it is that the tools do for you. Believe me, > I appreciate Netbeans, IntelliJ, and Eclipse for all the amazing things they > do for me - largely because I know how hard it is to do things without them. > > You have, however, inspired me to take a look at the ICEFaces plug-in for > Eclipse. Perhaps I'll install that and see what it does for me with respect > to JSF on GAE/J development! > > Derek > > On Oct 16, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Vik wrote: > > hie > > I am from ADF world and used awesome JDeveloper to build ADF apps. It is > great to use the ide stuff to do all the page design of ADF pages. > > So,kinda hard for me to imagine how to write a JSF page in eclipse without > all that support for a GAE app. > > Please enlighten how you do that > > Thankx and Regards > > Vik > Founder > www.sakshum.com > www.sakshum.blogspot.com > > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Derek Berube <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I have been using Eclipse 3.5 with Google's AppEngine Eclipse Plugin and >> have found it to be quite useful. I am more interested in the JSF2 >> framework, so I have spent the bulk of my time using that with AppEngine. >> While the JSF2 specification is in final draft status and there is a >> second release candidate for Sun's reference implementation, tooling support >> specifically targeted at supporting JSF2 in only now starting to emerge. >> The milestone 2 release of Netbeans 6.8 is now out and it includes JSf2 >> support. I know the next major releases of ICEFaces and RichFaces will be >> formally supporting JSF2, so it will be interesting to see how those >> frameworks play in AppEngine as well. >> >> I just updated the step-by-step guide for JSF2 and Google >> AppEngine<http://java.wildstartech.com/Java-Platform-Enterprise-Edition/JavaServer-Faces/sun-javaserver-faces-reference-implementation/configuring-jsf-20-to-run-on-the-google-appengine> >> configuration >> guide. I plan on doing some more generic JSF1.2/JSF2 Facelets templating >> stuff as well as writing up some stuff on the new JSF2 resource management >> framework (awesome)!. >> >> Derek >> >> On Oct 13, 2009, at 2:58 PM, Vik wrote: >> >> Well i believe ide features provide much more than just visual design.. >> like looking at property inspector, binding to action listeners and managed >> beans etc.. >> >> So, it means there is no easy way to build JSF apps targeted for GAE? >> >> Thankx and Regards >> >> Vik >> Founder >> www.sakshum.com >> www.sakshum.blogspot.com >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Derek Berube <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> I don't really rely much on the visual design tools for building out the >>> GUI. I tend to prefer to work with the raw XHTML and stylesheets while >>> frequently previewing the work in my browser. >>> Derek >>> >>> >>> On Oct 13, 2009, at 9:08 AM, Vik wrote: >>> >>> Derek >>> >>> Do you get to see page designer and component pellete etc when u just add >>> libraries in your project related to JSF? >>> >>> >>> Thankx and Regards >>> >>> Vik >>> Founder >>> www.sakshum.com >>> www.sakshum.blogspot.com >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Derek Berube <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Vik, >>>> When doing JSF development with the Google AppEngine and the Eclipse >>>> plug-in, go ahead and select the Google Web Application project. >>>> >>>> You'll have to manually copy the JSF libraries into the WEB-INF/lib >>>> directory of your web application. The WEB-INF/lib directory for my JSF2 >>>> projects looks like this: >>>> >>>> WEB-INF >>>> |-- lib >>>> |-- appengine-api-1.0-sdk-1.2.5.jar >>>> |-- appengine-api-labs-1.2.5.jar >>>> |-- datanucleus-appengine-1.0.3.jar >>>> |-- datanucleus-core-1.1.5.jar >>>> |-- datanucleus-jpa-1.1.5.jar >>>> |-- el-api-1.1.jar >>>> |-- el-impl-1.1.jar >>>> |-- geronimo-jpa_3.0_spec-1.1.1.jar >>>> |-- geronimo-jta_1.1_spec-1.1.1.jar >>>> |-- jdo2-api-2.3-eb.jar >>>> |-- jsf-api.jar >>>> |-- jsf-impl.jar >>>> |-- serializer.jar >>>> |-- xalan.jar >>>> >>>> I've been meaning to re-write that page on getting JSF 2.0 to work with >>>> the GAE using a step-by-step tutorial process that I did for the 1.2 >>>> framework<http://java.wildstartech.com/Java-Platform-Enterprise-Edition/JavaServer-Faces/sun-javaserver-faces-reference-implementation/configuring-jsf-12-to-run-on-the-google-app-engine>. >>>> I'll see if I can get around to writing that up and posted over the next >>>> couple of days. >>>> >>>> For the most part, the latest release of the JSF2 framework has been >>>> working great for me! The only caveat is that I'm using the client-side >>>> state management because it seems that reconstituting state on the server >>>> side causes timeouts at the persistence layer. >>>> >>>> Derek >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 6, 2009, at 11:29 PM, Vik wrote: >>>> >>>> hie >>>> >>>> i m interested to use jsf 2.0 but when i chose project with icon g+ and >>>> try to use jsf eclipse reports that i should use a dynamic web project. >>>> Any suggestions? >>>> >>>> Thankx and Regards >>>> >>>> Vik >>>> Founder >>>> www.sakshum.com >>>> www.sakshum.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Jason (Google) <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> See "Will it play in App Engine" to see the compatible (and >>>>> incompatible) frameworks and libraries and how to configure them for App >>>>> Engine: >>>>> >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java/web/will-it-play-in-app-engine >>>>> >>>>> You may also want to look into Spring MVC and Guice, which are >>>>> established Java frameworks, but ultimately, you should use whichever >>>>> pattern or framework works best for you and your project. >>>>> >>>>> - Jason >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:27 AM, Vik <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hie >>>>>> >>>>>> Any idea what are those limitations? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thankx and Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Vik >>>>>> Founder >>>>>> www.sakshum.com >>>>>> www.sakshum.blogspot.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Jaziel Leandro >>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi vik, >>>>>>> If i can recommend a framework to you, look to JSF(1.2 and 2) and >>>>>>> Google Web Toolkit(GWT). The JSF framework have some limitations to >>>>>>> work on >>>>>>> GAE and need some configurations, but i prefer this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2009/10/5 Vik <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hie Guys >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have an app which is build using pretty old technology stack i.e >>>>>>>> using MVC1 design pattern and conventional Jsps with scriplets to use >>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>> views and >>>>>>>> for the controller logic and beans for model layer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, if some has to redo it today what is the recommended framework >>>>>>>> to be used which is supported by GAE. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thankx and Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Vik >>>>>>>> Founder >>>>>>>> www.sakshum.com >>>>>>>> www.sakshum.blogspot.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine for Java" group. 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