I've faxed over the CLA and created issue #2381 for this:

   http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=2381

Here are the changes I've made since the original implementation:

 - The Deferrable.doTask method is now declared to throw Exception
(instead of PermanentTaskFailure). This allows implementations to
throw any subclass of Exception in order to have the task retried.
(PermanentTaskFailure remains a subclass of Exception).

 - The Deferrable.doTask method no longer takes any arguments.

 - Removed the TaskHolder nested class since it's no longer needed.

 - Allow an extra 240 bytes for task overhead; in testing the actual
overhead was 101 bytes, so this will leave some head-room. In
addition, the IllegalArgumentException that's thrown if the task size
is exceeded is caught (and logged), and the task it then written to
the datastore.

 - An exception is logged if payload is not an instance of Deferrable.

 - If the task is written to the datastore and there's a subsequent
failure to queue the task, the datastore entity is deleted.

 - Try twice for datatstore puts and deletes in case of
DatastoreTimeoutException.

 - Try twice when queuing a task in case of TransientFailureException.

 - Added comments.

Let me know if you have additional feedback.

Vince

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Nick Johnson (Google)
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Vince,
>
> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Vince Bonfanti <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Nick,
>>
>> Thanks for your feedback. Yes, I'm very interested in seeing this
>> included in the official SDK. What are the steps from here?
>
> See this doc:
> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/web/how-to-submit-a-patch-to-the-sdk
>
>>
>> See responses to specific questions inserted below.
>>
>> Vince
>>
>> > - Perhaps make PermanentTaskFailure a runtime exception, which would
>> > eliminate the need to declare it on methods that throw it.
>>
>> That's fine. I generally prefer checked exceptions, but if the
>> AppEngine team prefers unchecked exceptions, I'm happy to make this
>> change.
>
> I wouldn't say we prefer them in general - but personally, I think common
> uses of PermanentTaskFailure fit into the same sort of category as out of
> memory errors, divisions by zero, and so forth - they're not predictable at
> design-time.
>>
>> > - If you do the above, you could make the Deferrable interface extend
>> > Runnable, as suggested in the meeting. I'm not sure that's appropriate,
>> > since the implications of Runnable are different.
>>
>> I think Runnable is not appropriate. I also looked at Callable, but in
>> the end thought a new interface--Deferrable--was the best option.
>
> Fair enough.
>
>>
>> > - I'm not sure there's any need to be able to pass arguments to the
>> > Deferrable, since users will already have to declare a deferrable class
>> > and
>> > instantiate it. I'm open to convincing, though.
>>
>> I put the arguments there to mimic the Python API and then realized
>> later they're not really needed. Removing the arguments also
>> simplifies the code by eliminating the need for the TaskHolder
>> class--the Deferrable class could be serialized directly. I'm happy to
>> remove the arguments if that's what the AppEngine team decides is
>> best.
>
> Since the Java version is inevitably different due to the need for a custom
> class instead of a function object, I'd vote to drop the arguments.
>
>>
>> > - Have you tested tasks of size exactly MaxTaskSizeBytes? At least in
>> > Python, the actual limit seems to include some overhead that varies from
>> > task to task.
>>
>> No, I haven't tested this yet.
>>
>> > - If payload isn't an instance of TaskHolder, the task will silently
>> > return
>> > - it should log an error.
>>
>> I think the only way payload won't be an instance of TaskHolder is if
>> the deserialize() method returns null, in which case an error has
>> already been logged. But I'll double-check this.
>
> The other possibility is that something else serialized an object and sent
> it to your task handler - or possibly, that a future version of your own
> code did so. I think logging an error (but returning a 200 status code)
> would be the best policy, so these sorts of situations are debuggable.
>
> -Nick Johnson
>>
>> > Are you interested in having this included in the official SDK?
>> > -Nick
>> > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Vince Bonfanti <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> This looked like an interesting problem, and I already had most of the
>> >> pieces in place, so here's my first attempt, which is implemented in a
>> >> single class (also attached, along with some test files):
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  http://code.google.com/p/gaevfs/source/browse/trunk/src/com/newatlanta/appengine/taskqueue/Deferred.java
>> >>
>> >> I'm more than happy to contribute this for inclusion in the SDK.
>> >>
>> >> Some caveats:
>> >>
>> >>   1) Because of issue #2097
>> >> (http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=2097), this
>> >> doesn't work on the development server (it does work in production).
>> >> So go star that issue!
>> >>
>> >>   2) I've only done minimal testing on the production server (see the
>> >> attached test files).
>> >>
>> >>   3) This post is the only documentation that's currently available.
>> >>
>> >> First, add the following your your web.xml:
>> >>
>> >>    <servlet>
>> >>        <servlet-name>Deferred</servlet-name>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  <servlet-class>com.newatlanta.appengine.taskqueue.Deferred</servlet-class>
>> >>    </servlet>
>> >>    <servlet-mapping>
>> >>        <servlet-name>Deferred</servlet-name>
>> >>        <url-pattern>/_ah/queue/deferred</url-pattern>
>> >>    </servlet-mapping>
>> >>
>> >> Second, define the "deferred" queue within queue.xml (use whatever
>> >> rate you want):
>> >>
>> >>    <queue>
>> >>        <name>deferred</name>
>> >>        <rate>10/s</rate>
>> >>    </queue>
>> >>
>> >> Next, create a class that implements the
>> >> com.newatlanta.appengine.taskqueue.Deferred.Deferrable interface; the
>> >> "doTask()" method of this class is where you implement your task
>> >> logic.
>> >>
>> >> Then, invoke the com.newatlanta.appengine.taskqueue.Deferred.defer()
>> >> method to queue up your task:
>> >>
>> >>    TestDeferred testDeferred = new TestDeferred(); // implements
>> >> Deferrable
>> >>    Deferred.defer( testDeferred, "one", "two", "three", 1, 2, 3 );
>> >>
>> >> (Note that it would be possible to pass arguments as attributes to
>> >> your Deferrable instance, rather than using varargs; I'm not sure it
>> >> makes much difference which you choose).
>> >>
>> >> Just as for the Python implementation, if the arguments size exceeds
>> >> 10KB, the arguments are stored in a datastore entity, which is then
>> >> deleted when the task is executed. Also, your doTask() method can
>> >> throw a PermanentTaskFailure exception to halt retries; any other
>> >> exceptions cause the task to be retried.
>> >>
>> >> Let me know if you find this useful, have any questions or encounter
>> >> any problems.
>> >>
>> >> Vince
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Jason (Google) <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hi David. This may be coming to Java eventually, but it hasn't been
>> >> > started
>> >> > yet. If you or anyone else is interested in contributing, let me
>> >> > know.
>> >> >
>> >> > - Jason
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:52 AM, David Chandler
>> >> > <[email protected]>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Re: http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/deferred.html
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Will this be coming to AppEngine for Java?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> David Chandler
>> >> >> http://turbomanage.wordpress.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Nick Johnson, Developer Programs Engineer, App Engine
>> > Google Ireland Ltd. :: Registered in Dublin, Ireland, Registration
>> > Number:
>> > 368047
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Nick Johnson, Developer Programs Engineer, App Engine
> Google Ireland Ltd. :: Registered in Dublin, Ireland, Registration Number:
> 368047
>
> >
>

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