The 1998 suite was more about trademark, since MS created J++, using
Sun's Java branding in their completely non Java programming
language.

On Aug 14, 12:15 pm, Guillermo Schwarz <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Reminds me of 1998, when Sun sued Microsoft over modifications on Java,
> which turned up to be the equivalent of C# delegates and could be easily
> implemented in Java but so far have not been included in Java (closures
> are far more ambitious, but still not implemented).
>
> The result of the lawsuit was Microsoft dropping Java in favor of
> creating C#.
>
> If the result today is Google dropping Java, I doubt they will select
> another language. Probably they will just develop their own Java clone
> or use one of the available clones already in the open source world.
>
> I still don't see the point of Oracle. Java is already open source. If
> they are trying to protect the trademark, it is non-sense, anyone can
> copy Java, rename it, etc.
>
> If they are trying to protect any patent, they need to show proof that
> they reasonably attempted to protect their intellectual property
> (signing NDAs is the typical 
> examplehttp://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000071.html). In this
> case, they didn't protect it if they open sourced it.
>
> Cheers,
> Guillermo.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 17:37 +0200, Francois MASUREL wrote:
> > Yep, but it's not the full standard OpenJDK as some classes are not
> > accessible (white list).
>
> > I bet Oracle doesn't agree with that.  But they'll probably do one
> > thing at a time, we'll see.
>
> > I don't enjoy what is going on at the moment, Java being my main
> > developping language for almost 10 years now.
>
> > François
>
> > On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 17:12, Wilson MacGyver <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >         I don't think so. The lawsuit is really against the android VM
> >         Dalvik.
> >         Since GAE uses openjdk as far as I know, it's not a problem.
>
> >         On Aug 14, 2010, at 5:52 AM, François Masurel
> >         <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >         > Will Google App Engine for Java be impacted ?
>
> >         > I guess that if the Oracle patents are validated, Google
> >         wont be able
> >         > to use their "adapted" version of the JDK anymore because it
> >         will not
> >         > pass the TCK tests which is required to get the GPL patent
> >         grant.
>
> >         > Does that mean the end of the Google App Engine for Java
> >         platform any
> >         > time soon ?
>
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