Yeah, I see, and agree with your point. And I did try "it" myself, although I mentioned it cryptically with "Googled & tested". And from the feedback from your perception, I mis-communicated "it", because I didn't intend to take the indicated complex approach.
Btw, MaintainJ is a tracing tool, to trace Java call-flows for a specific use-case, like logging-in/authentication for instance, to generate automated Sequence Diagrams, which then are easily usable in Eclipse to navigate to linked source-code and have instant flow- insight on a case-to-case basis. It also shows which Strings are being communicated during the call, and recently one can even see the complete SQL prepared statement generated by any persistence layer, like JPA implementations, etc.. To use the tool, however, one has to set it up on the same server (servlet container) on which the webapp --targeted to trace its Java calls-- will run/debug from. GAEJ comes with its own embedded Jetty one, of which I couldn't find the location to pull-off the setup. I need to deploy a second war file containing the MaintainJ tracing webapp, to run it on the same server-instance as the GAEJ app I'm building/debugging locally. The Eclipse GAEJ launch configuration tab doesn't offer any relevant options, nor could I find an argument switch. So I thought to use a fresh one I could setup myself. GWT offers the -noserver switch so that one could use another (non- embedded) server. I couldn't find the same option for GAEJ. I mentioned MaintainJ to point out my use-case for what I'm asking. My concrete questions are: 1. Is it possible to test/debug/run a GAEJ app locally on a different server than the embedded Jetty one? It can even be another Jetty configuration, but it has to be an external one rather then the embedded one. So that I deploy another webapp to be loaded in the same server-instance, and add specific libraries to the server lib dir/ path. 2. Otherwise can one do the same on the default GAEJ local embedded Jetty server? In both cases, if yes, how can one do that exactly? Or where should I look for more relevant information? Thanks so far. I could still use another good feedback/nudge (from someone?). On Feb 12, 6:41 am, Didier Durand <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > And why don't you just try by yourself ? > > What you're asking for is so specific so probably nobody has exactly > tried what you're asking for. So, people are careful: if they don't > know, they will not answer. > > 1 main point for that: gae made quite a few changes of the jre (See > the while list of emulated classes) and added very specific stuff to > its dev env (datastore, tasks, namespace, etc.). SO, it's hard to tell > if it works elsewhere or not unless you try it. > > Something I can propose though: why don't you work the other round: > you respect servlet api + you have DAOs (matching your databases9 for > you data access. Then, you can do what you want with maintainj and > then moving the app to gae should be pretty staightforward (you > replace your DAOs with their gae datastore version). > > gae brings its own philosophy: most developers respect it (i.e develop > with the sdk and local server) to then leverage the real live > environment as soon as possible. I guess that you need to bear the > costs by yourself if you want to go on more complex roads. > > regards > > didier > > On Feb 12, 6:18 am, b4l4nc3r <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Either I've landed on a deserted island & I'm left in the mercy of a > > huge amount of luck. OR I'm pushing on the wrong buttons.... hmmm..... > > > On Feb 11, 10:29 pm, b4l4nc3r <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Am I missing something? An obvious documentation I should have read > > > that would indicate at some point Yes or No? Or am I asking a > > > ridicules question here? Someone with enough know-how should be able > > > point at some direction with the minimum use of her/his time, right? > > > Forget about MaintainJ, just the notion of an GAEJ app locally on a > > > non-embedded Jetty server, possible? Someone succeeded? > > > > On Feb 11, 6:06 am, b4l4nc3r <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Lets try it completely:http://www.maintainj.com/ > > > > > On Feb 11, 5:40 am, b4l4nc3r <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Btw, I just found out that for some reason the URL I've used starting > > > > > this discussion/thread is pointing > > > > > tohttp://www.google.com/www.maintainj.com > > > > > instead ofwww.maintainj.com. Please know that MaintainJ and that > > > > > website both do definitely exist and are worth getting into, hence my > > > > > pushy self here. > > > > > > On Feb 11, 5:15 am, b4l4nc3r <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Ok. Lets first start with Yes or No, and perhaps someone else could > > > > > > elaborate further. > > > > > > > On Feb 10, 11:00 pm, b4l4nc3r <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > To state more straightforward concrete questions: > > > > > > > 1. Is it possible to test/debug/run a GAEJ app locally on a > > > > > > > different > > > > > > > server than the embedded Jetty one? It can even be another Jetty > > > > > > > configuration, but it has to be an external one rather then the > > > > > > > embedded one. > > > > > > > 2. Otherwise can one change the configuration/add libs and deploy > > > > > > > another webapp to the same GAEJ configured local Jetty instance? > > > > > > > > In both cases, if yes, how can one do that exactly? > > > > > > > > On Feb 10, 10:24 am, b4l4nc3r <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > What I mean is, GWT has the ability to use a different server > > > > > > > > to run > > > > > > > > from, like Tomcat for instance. GAEJ doesn't seem to offer such > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > option, at least not from what I was able to do after having > > > > > > > > Googled & > > > > > > > > tested for quite a few hours. > > > > > > > > > The reason why I want to run it on a server other than the > > > > > > > > embedded > > > > > > > > Jetty one, is so that I could use MaintainJ (www.maintainj.com) > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > needs a special setup on the server side, including deploying a > > > > > > > > separate webapp on the same server of which I want to trace the > > > > > > > > calls > > > > > > > > of another deployed webapp. I couldn't figure out where or how > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > setup the embedded Jetty one, so that's why I'm trying a bit > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > flexible approach to cover more future cases I've in mind. > > > > > > > > > Any nudge in the right direction is appreciated. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine for Java" group. 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