Bill,

The docs say otherwise. count() on a query object returns a maximum of 1000.
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/queryclass.html#Query_count

Sharded counters are used to ease contention for highly updated objects but
that doesn't downplay the need for counters. You need to either put a
counter on a separate entity or create sharded counter if you want to count
more than 1000 entities.

Ian

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> You can count well over 1000 objects -- the limitation is in the
> fetching, but that's not the reason for sharded counters in Bloog.
>
> I wrote Bloog way back when App Engine was new and I was trying out
> different "best practices" for datastore ops.  Sharded counters are a
> way to handle heavily-used counters, e.g. if the counter was getting
> updated dozens of times per second.  If you have that many increments/
> decrements on a counter, if you put the counter in a single integer
> property, you'd start getting write contention.
>
> In retrospect, doing the sharded counter in Bloog was complete
> overkill.  It was useful to me at the time, because I was learning.
> But the next version of Bloog will likely use a single integer
> property for the counter and scrap the sharded counter.
> -Bill
>
> On Mar 1, 9:11 pm, Ian Lewis <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Krishna,
> >
> > The datastore can only return or count up to 1000 objects so if you have
> > more than 1000 objects in the database you cannot count them without a
> > counter. I assume the code in Bloog is keeping counts of objects in case
> it
> > runs up against this limitation.
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Krishna <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Ian,
> >
> > > I'm using some open source code (Bloog) and I don't really understand
> > > how it works. So I'll trust your cautious approach although I don't
> > > quite understand why something would need to "keep counts of objects
> > > in the datastore". Best not to meddle although I was hoping to clean
> > > things up if I could.
> >
> > > Thank you for responding.
> > > Krishna
> >
> > > On Mar 1, 11:31 pm, Ian Lewis <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Krishna,
> >
> > > > Anything you see in the data viewer is created by some application
> code.
> > > It
> > > > wouldn't be put there by google appengine specifically. That said it
> > > looks
> > > > like something is using a sharded counter to keep counts of objects
> in
> > > the
> > > > datastore or something similar. This data would not likely be
> regenerated
> > > if
> > > > deleted, it would likely reset all the counters to zero so I would
> leave
> > > it
> > > > alone.
> >
> > > > Ian
> >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Krishna <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > On the Data Viewer I have an entity called CounterShards. I
> considered
> > > > > deleting some extraneous data there but was afraid it would blow
> > > > > something up. If I delete data here, will it be regenerated
> > > > > automatically or should I leave it alone?
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