Most shared hosting providers don't have the customer base Google
already has, because they don't offer those services for free. Also,
because you haven't run into the 'bad neighbor' issue doesn't mean
it's not common. It really depends on what service providers you were
using.

It's not really a DNS issue by google. Static IP's are expensive and
if you haven't been keeping up with the IPv4 dilemma that's been going
on for the past few years, we're almost out of IPv4 address worldwide,
let alone Google being able to give each app it's own IP for free
(which is basically what you're asking for).

This really is an issue where if you have requirements of a dedicated
IP for your application, then yes, I imagine you do want to go with a
different hosting provider who is willing to provide (and charge you
for) that.

On Apr 2, 2:04 pm, WallyDD <[email protected]> wrote:
> Barry,
>
> The issue is with the way google deals with dns.
> The issue is very much googles as it means a lot of people will not be
> able to develop on Google app engine. Most larger websites have no
> choice but to steer clear of Google application engine.
>
> I would love to take the issue up with  the maintainers of these
> firewalls. Please would you be so kind as to provide me with their
> contact information?
>
> On Apr 2, 1:49 pm, Barry Hunter <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On 02/04/2009, WallyDD <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >  I have custom domain. I have never had anything blocked in many years
> > >  before migrating to google app engine.
>
> > >  The 'bad neighbour' issue has never been a problem for me in the past.
>
> > What do you want, a medal?
>
> > really that was just blind luck. (or maybe you weren't on a shared
> > system, or a highly segregated system, far removed from your
> > neighbours, either way just lucky)
>
> > I still contend this isn't Google's problem, take up your grivence
> > with the maintainers of the firewalls.
>
> > >  On Apr 2, 11:18 am, Barry Hunter <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >  > And why is this Google's problem?
>
> > >  > Presumably you are a victim of those countries over-zealous blocking
> > >  > (presuming you don't think your site is getting blocked itself)
>
> > >  > Any shared hosting will suffer this 'bad neighbour' issue, AppEngine
> > >  > happens to be a rather large hosting provider, so its quite likely.
>
> > >  > They could make the problem less likely to occur by using larger pool
> > >  > of IP addresses, and hashing the domain to specific IPs, as I imagine
> > >  > it would be impractical to offer unique IPs, but there is little
> > >  > incentive to do so (IMHO)
>
> > >  > You might get slightly better results using a custom domain if you
> > >  > don't already.
>
> > > > On 02/04/2009, WallyDD <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >  > >  List of countries where any website hosted on google app engine is 
> > > not
> > >  > >  accessible;
> > >  > >  China
> > >  > >  Iran
> > >  > >  Sudan
> > >  > >  Syria
> > >  > >  Indonesia is blocked by most providers
> > >  > >  Cuba
>
> > >  > >  On Apr 2, 10:48 am, WallyDD <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >  > > > Hello,
>
> > >  > >  > My website (on google app engine) is blocked in China where I 
> > > used to
> > >  > >  > get a lot of traffic from. I only just realised this from looking 
> > > at
> > >  > >  > the logs and noting that traffic from china has crawled to 
> > > standstill.
> > >  > >  > I imagine my website is blocked in other countries as well thanks 
> > > to
> > >  > >  > this blocking technique.
>
> > >  > >  > Does Google have a plan for dealing with this?
>
> > >  > >  > Any chance of a response from someone at google? I would really 
> > > like
> > >  > >  > to know if this is being dealt with seriously?
>
> > >  > >  > This doesn't just apply to my website, it applies to every site on
> > >  > >  > google app engine.
>
> > >  > --
>
> > > > Barry
>
> > >  > -www.nearby.org.uk-www.geograph.org.uk-
>
> > --
> > Barry
>
> > -www.nearby.org.uk-www.geograph.org.uk-
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