Does the app actually have back end dynamic code or is the whole thing
css and html?  If so, I would start from scratch and download the sdk
and run it as it describes.  I built many apps using ASP and one using
PHP over the last 10 years.  I picked up the environment quickly.  I
don't use the patch, it's way to complicated.  I've built several apps
on App Engine now and find it easy to use besides the fun limits.  App
Engine lets you create a static directory for all files.  I would
place the HTML and CSS into this directory and start from scratch with
a new project.



On Apr 7, 4:40 pm, Aaron <[email protected]> wrote:
> ya that is where I am at right now.   I am trying to get my computer
> to a point where I can then focus on getting the site uploaded.
>
> I am having problems getting the scripts that the previous coder made
> and also getting manage.py to see or find SDK of  google app engine.
>
> I asked the ceo to ask the old programmer about what he meant about
> path stuff.
>
> So currently I followed his directions and put manage.py in the app
> folder but when I ran it in terminal I get a Cannot find SDK  error.
>
> I mean it's frustrating. I spent about 3 weeks and I am only getting
> 75 bucks for this. It took up alot of my time just to download the kit
> and install it.
>
> and do that Django package installation. and other packages. Now after
> doing that. I took a look at the website files given to me from the
> previous programmer.
>
> I am struggling on getting the development area to have no errors so I
> can focus on the coding part. I have some experience with python and
> do know the lango.
>
> That's not the problem. I just have to look at how the pervious
> programmer stored data. I don't have problems with doing the changes
> to the site and uploading it.
>
> I am doing this will going to college full time so I am stressed out.
> The ceo even calls me at times at midnight asking how far I am on the
> project.
>
> He told me he is getting concern about the project.
>
> At the start of the job I was never told I had to use google apps that
> was unstil I was done with the website addons coded in css and html on
> my server.
>
> I then thought he had a hosting services where I just use a panel to
> upload the files. Yet I was wrong he tells me he uses google servers.
> I then was like what?
>
> I never knew google does that. I never heard anything about that. I
> ask him if he was sure it's google.  He said he was pretty sure.
>
> So I thought that google must have it and would provide a upload
> cpanel to load in the scripts.
>
> So I ask for the login and stuff and he made an account and then
> contacted the old program to get guided on what to do to make my
> account.
>
> Then he told me I had to download google apps engine. I then knew that
> this must be something big. I was thinking in my head why would a
> hosting serivce provider need to give a engine out.
>
> So then he told me out flat that I need to know python and know how to
> use google apps engine. I told I know python but never done anything
> heavy with it.
>
> I never used google apps and don't know where to go.
>
> So he said don't worry if you have questions I can ask the old
> programmer.
>
> So this is where we are at. Usally when I ask the ceo to ask something
> to the old programmer this takes time to get a reply.
>
> Cause the old programmer isn't working at this company anymore and I
> am sure he looks at his e-mail later on in the day.
>
> So this going back and forth is costing me time and the ceo is getting
> impatient.
>
> from what I know. I don't have to code anything heavily. I just have
> to make modifications and that is it.
>
> yet still have that error where manage.py dosen't find the SDK of
> google apps even though google apps is installed on my system.
>
> So looks like the manage.py dosen't know where google apps is located
> for some reason.
>
> I don't know if I have to add  a path on manage.py to point to where
> the python script of the SDK is located at?
>
> On Apr 7, 3:56 pm, dartdog1 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > It is not easy.. 1st you need to get your machine set to use the
> > Google App engine SDK and development server... I put my experience
> > with that herehttp://tombrander.wordpress.com... then you need to get
> > your current version of the app running there... from other messages I
> > see you have left it seems that you have problems at that point...so
> > get those solved... If you don't have a useful development environment
> > your going to have a long road.. I've found Eclipse with Pydev to be
> > very helpful but it too has a learning curve.
>
> > I'm currently struggling with Google App engine patch and Django
> > examples but the above steps are how I got that far. FWIW, Finding the
> > files for modifying code within Django is not very easy and my guess
> > id that if you are using the app-engine patch you probably got Django
> > as well,, so looking at that doccumentation might help...
>
> > Good luck, you may have bitten off too much ??
>
> > As I said I'm still struggling... but keeping at it as there seems to
> > be some gold at the end of the rainbow!
>
> > On Apr 7, 1:50 pm, Aaron <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Is their any instant chat room that can help me with google apps
> > > engine?
>
> > > On Apr 7, 2:29 pm, Aaron <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I don't think  he means updating.
>
> > > > I was given the website application files. I need to modify and also
> > > > import my html and css code into this folder on my computer.
>
> > > > The problem is when manage.py is in that app folder and when I run it
> > > > in terminal I get a error sayin g can't find SDK.
>
> > > > yet when I move that manage.py file to the google app engine folder It
> > > > finds the SDK  and runs fine well I get also a error saying module
> > > > contact is missing.
>
> > > > So I told the programmer that problem. He told me it needs to stay in
> > > > that app folder.
>
> > > > Then to fix the cannot find SDK error I have to use that path stuff.
>
> > > > I wasn't sure if  he means  to add that as code to manage.py  or to
> > > > type that in the terminal.
>
> > > > Or if it was a example of where the path should be.
>
> > > > I am not totally sure.   I just have to figure this all out quickly.
> > > > The ceo is very ticked off and really wants it done really soon.
>
> > > > He is now asking me when I will be done with making my changes to the
> > > > site. He already got another project for me.
>
> > > > I am not making big bucks but I need some experience on my resume
> > > > because alot of jobs turned me down because I didn't have industry
> > > > experience.
>
> > > > So this is the only reason I am doing this. I am just getting paid 75
> > > > bucks for the first modifications.
>
> > > > So I really do need a faster way to understand how to use google
> > > > engine.
>
> > > > I have experience in html, css, php, apache, mysql, microsoft access.
> > > > I do have experience with python.
>
> > > > I don't hever experience with google apps engine. I am not even well
> > > > experienced with python to work on big software apps.
>
> > > > So if you do know php and what I basicly know. I would like someone to
> > > > explain it in terms what I know saying for like php mysql
>
> > > > you would use code like this for python/google apps etc.
>
> > > > I wish I had more time where I can look at the guides and take my time
> > > > learning and experiencing google apps but I don't.
>
> > > > the ceo knows I don't have experience with google.
>
> > > > I am also the only one doing it cheap for him. Others asked him for
> > > > 1,500 bucks.
>
> > > > SO currently I am stressing out. He wants me to say a deadline but yet
> > > > I can't really say when I will be finished unless I have control and
> > > > understand the structure of the google app engine so I would know what
> > > > to do and work on it quickly.
>
> > > > Last night I didn't get to go to bed cause while I am trying to learn
> > > > this stuff I was also studying for exams for college classes and also
> > > > had to do a tax problem.
>
> > > > So I  hope you understand my stress level. I wish I had more time but
> > > > I don't I normally don't ask alot of questions but since I have
> > > > limited time I need to know what links I would need so I don't waste
> > > > any time looking at something that I wouldn't need at all to learn.
>
> > > > On Apr 7, 11:18 am, Ray Malone <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Take a look at the documentation for uploading an app 
> > > > > herehttp://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/tools/uploadinganapp.html
>
> > > > > However, I think you are using the app engine patch and may need this
> > > > > instead.  
> > > > > http://code.google.com/p/app-engine-patch/wiki/GettingStarted
>
> > > > > I don't use the path and don't have experience setting it up, but this
> > > > > should help.
>
> > > > > On Apr 7, 10:52 am, Aaron <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > HI, I am very confused on how to use google app engine. I have a job
> > > > > > as a vp of technlology. I was a website developer.
>
> > > > > > I only know html,css, php, python.  I never heavily used python so I
> > > > > > am rusty with it.
>
> > > > > > I only had experience with using apache and mysql.
>
> > > > > > I am new to google application and have been doing research on it. I
> > > > > > found it uses a different database system.
>
> > > > > > I already made the website for the company now I need to upload it 
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > google apps and also make modifications in python scripts to add 
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > server sided functionalities.
>
> > > > > > So far it's been about 4 weeks. My ceo is really upset. He never 
> > > > > > gave
> > > > > > a deadline but he wanted it to be done as soon as possible. He is 
> > > > > > now
> > > > > > breathing down my neck. I am stressed out .
>
> > > > > > So to make matters worst I need to learn how google apps engine 
> > > > > > works
> > > > > > and how I can use it in a quick manner.
>
> > > > > > The ceo has been talking to the previous VP of technology.
>
> > > > > > He is the one the made the website. I just added onto it. So He gave
> > > > > > me the original website files meaningthe python and the folder.
>
> > > > > > He told me I have to use manage.py  to update or test run the app
> > > > > > meaning the website.
>
> > > > > > Currently I tried the manage.py which was inthe apps folder  and 
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > folder was in googles engine folder.
>
> > > > > > I been getting a error saying can't find SDK.
>
> > > > > > So I moved the manage.py to googles app engine folder and it worked.
> > > > > > Yet when I
>
> ...
>
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