My main issue is that I can't account for the data, and I don't know how to trust the value that I am getting billed for.
Paul 2009/5/14 Sri <[email protected]> > > Just to be fair, when I recently checked all the data had returned to > 0% usage. But that doesnt explain the 30000 entities i had uploaded > 12 hours ago.... > > On May 14, 10:43 pm, Sri <[email protected]> wrote: > > Howdy > > > > I agree with you paul. I just deleted the contents of my > > datastore (which took about 2 days - as if that amount of time is not > > wierd in itself, let alone 2 months), and at the end it was showing > > 130 meg (or 13% usage). What the? > > > > Sorry but what was the originaly argument against a "clear-all" switch > > on the data store again? > > > > cheers > > Sri > > > > On May 14, 7:41 pm, Paul Kinlan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > The whole thing about datastore size is ***really*** frustating. I am > using > > > 30.94 GB for my app (twitterautofollow) and 1) I don't know where it is > > > being consumed and 2) I don't trust the figures, I delete data and the > size > > > of the datastore never goes down, so effectively I feel like am paying > and I > > > don't know what it is that I am paying for and 3) I honestly don't know > how > > > I could be using that much storage. > > > > > A case in point, I had another App where I spent 2 months deleting data > > > never to see the size decrease, I removed all the indexes from the > system > > > then two days later it was empty. > > > > > I just feel frustrated that I can't account for anything, and > unfortunatly > > > it is too late for me to design my app to have my own accounting in > place. > > > > > Paul. > > > > > 2009/5/14 Andy Freeman <[email protected]> > > > > > > Argh! > > > > > > This means that one form (db.Key) is smaller than the other > > > > (comparable string) for the datastore while the reverse is true for > > > > memcache. > > > > > > I've created am issue ( > > > >http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1538 > > > > )requesting a __getstate__ and __setstate__ for db.Key that is > smaller > > > > than the string equivalent. In addition to eliminating the > > > > inconsistency betwen the datastore and memcache sizes, it will reduce > > > > the size of every memcache'd db.Model instance whose .key() is > > > > defined. > > > > > > On May 13, 11:41 am, "Jason (Google)" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi Andy. In this case, the list of Key objects will be smaller than > the > > > > list > > > > > of key strings. Even though the picked db.Key object is larger, it > is a > > > > > binary-encoded protocol buffer form that gets stored, which is > smaller > > > > than > > > > > the pickled string. That said, I doubt it would make a tremendous > > > > difference > > > > > unless you have a lot of these entities or these lists have a lot > of > > > > values. > > > > > > > - Jason > > > > > > > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Andy Freeman < > [email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Since index space can be significant, can we get some additional > > > > > > information? > > > > > > > > For example, does an indexed db.ListProperty(db.Key) with three > > > > > > elements take significantly more or less space than an indexed > > > > > > db.StringListProperty with three elements whose value is str() of > the > > > > > > same keys? (The pickle of keys seems to be significantly larger > than > > > > > > the pickle of the equivalent strings.) > > > > > > > > On May 11, 5:04 pm, "Jason (Google)" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Anthony. I'm very sorry for the late reply, and thank you > for > > > > bearing > > > > > > > with me. I've discussed this with the datastore team and it's > evident > > > > > > that > > > > > > > the CSV file's size is not a great indicator of how much > storage your > > > > > > > entities will consume. On top of the size of the raw data, each > > > > entity > > > > > > has > > > > > > > associated metadata, as you've already mentioned, but I'd bet > that > > > > the > > > > > > > indexes are consuming the greatest space. If you don't ever > query on > > > > one > > > > > > or > > > > > > > more of these 15 string properties, you may consider changing > their > > > > > > property > > > > > > > types to Text or declaring indexed=false in your model. If you > can do > > > > > > this > > > > > > > with one of your properties and re-build your indexes, I'd be > > > > interested > > > > > > in > > > > > > > seeing how much your storage usage decreases since you'll need > one > > > > less > > > > > > > index. > > > > > > > > > (Note that single-property indexes are present but not listed > in the > > > > > > Admin > > > > > > > Console.) > > > > > > > > > - Jason > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Kugutsumen < > [email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Two weeks ago, I've sent my applications ID to both you and > Nick > > > > and I > > > > > > > > haven't heard from you since then. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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