Oh, I missed that it had been discussed before (when doing a search
for past threads). Yes, it would be good to have application instances
remain longer in memory, and/or if possible to significantly speed up
the startup time for application instances.

On May 18, 4:17 pm, bFlood <[email protected]> wrote:
> i agree, I think the instances are getting recycled more aggressively
> now. also, some more info on this post, including a comment from a
> googler.http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/...
>
> i hate to say it but I'm beginning to wish we could pay for a single
> instance to be left in memory for longer periods of time. they are
> certainly not full virtual environments like in EC2 or Azure, so I'm
> hoping this is feasible
>
> cheers
> brian
>
> On May 18, 9:35 am, Anders <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Yes, but even say an index page with only 'static' html is affected by
> > slow responses from servers. Take ordinary Google Search for example
> > which has awesome load time performance. That performance is an
> > important part of the quality of Google Search. We probably can't
> > expect that kind of performance when using GAE, but I would like to
> > see some improvements in performance regarding server response time.
>
> > On May 18, 3:18 pm, Wooble <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Keep in mind that the "first byte sent" goes out when your handler is
> > > completely finished with everything.  If you're fetching a lot of data
> > > from the datastore and want the page to start rendering earlier, you
> > > might want to think about using AJAX.
>
> > > On May 18, 8:34 am, Anders <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Ok, thanks. Yes, I suspected some kind of startup/page swap thing was
> > > > going on. It seems to happen more frequently now than in the past. It
> > > > lowers the quality of the service by having such slow response times
> > > > happening frequently. For example, the load time for a page with 17
> > > > separate objects (such as images, javascript files etc) can take 6
> > > > seconds of which 5 seconds is just for the server to respond! That's a
> > > > severe performance bottleneck imo.
>
> > > > On May 18, 1:02 pm, Tim Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Hi
>
> > > > > What you are seeing the is the server starting up some of the time
> > > > > (hence long response times) and sometime hitting a running server
> > > > > (short response times)
>
> > > > > Servers may recycle very quickly (ie in as little as 30 secs)
>
> > > > > A typical server startup time for django and some other frameworks is
> > > > > 2-3 secs
> > > > > You can see this in you admin console logs
>
> > > > > Java will no doubt exhibit the same thing
>
> > > > > Rgds
>
> > > > > Tim
>
> > > > > On May 18, 3:30 am, Anders <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I don't know if this is related to only the Python version or also 
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > the Java version, but the response time from GAE servers (Python) is
> > > > > > very uneven. Sometimes the time from connection with the server to 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > first byte sent is less than a second, but sometimes the response
> > > > > > takes several seconds between connection with the server to the 
> > > > > > first
> > > > > > byte being sent. It doesn't depend on the datastore or some other
> > > > > > backend it seems since it happens for pages who don't use any
> > > > > > (application-level) backend. And the response time can be very long
> > > > > > even after a recent (previous minute or so) fast response.
>
> > > > > > I have noticed this using ordinary web browsers, and also when using
> > > > > > tools like:
>
> > > > > >http://tools.pingdom.com/?url=http://www.blabline.com&treeview=0&colu...
>
> > > > > > Is there some kind of performance bottleneck that sets in from time 
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > time?
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