Hmm, that's not the solution I was hoping for, but that will work.

Thanks!

Kenny



On Jun 9, 12:07 pm, Wooble <[email protected]> wrote:
> GQL only has a SELECT statement, so using it to add data to the
> datastore is a nonstarter.
>
> You wanthttp://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/tools/uploadingdata.html
> most likely.
>
> On Jun 9, 1:48 pm, KennyCarlile <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Pranav,
>
> > Thanks for your reply, but templating is not what I'm looking for. I
> > just used the dropdown list as an example.
>
> > I want to load data into the datastore before anyone uses that system
> > and I don't want to create a form to enter it. That is, think of any
> > data that you might have in a system that would need to be there prior
> > to the system going live. How does that data get there? Sure, some of
> > it might be able to be entered through forms, but surely some of it
> > just exists to be pulled from the DB.
>
> > Normally, to add this data to a non-GAE system, say, with a MySQL
> > backend, I'd just create a script to run against the empty DB. It
> > would just have a series of INSERT statements to preload data:
>
> > INSERT INTO PostCategories ('name', 'displayOrder'....) VALUES
> > 'Articles', 1...
> > INSERT INTO PostCategories ('name', 'displayOrder'....) VALUES
> > 'Tutorials', 2...
> > INSERT INTO PostCategories ('name', 'displayOrder'....) VALUES 'News',
> > 3...
>
> > ...and so on.
>
> > I want those preloaded in the DB because, when I go to create
> > articles, those types need to exist. If the categories were likely to
> > change a lot, I might create a form to create and edit categories, but
> > for small apps with relatively static categories, I may not
> > (initially) create those forms.
>
> > Now, I recognize that this is a bad example, because someone could
> > just say, "If it's not going to change, just hardcode the dropdown
> > list in the template". While I could do that, I don't want to do that.
> > Just because I'm not going to code a form to create/edit a table in
> > the DB doesn't mean that I don't want the proper data representation.
> > That's why I recognize this might be a bad example, but I'm not
> > working on a current project that I can pull a specific example from.
>
> > Anyway, my question is this: how would I get that data into the GAE
> > datastore? What is the standard way people go about putting data in
> > the datastore that isn't inserted by submitting it through a form?
> > Should I just create a script that has a bunch of Python object
> > instantiations with the data I want and then push those to the
> > datastore and then call that script by loading a page? That's how I've
> > done it in the past and it just seems like there should be a better
> > way. It seems like I should be able to create a YAML file or a GQL
> > file, drop it in the file system, and then tell GAE to parse that text
> > file to load the data, rather than executing static Python code.
>
> > Thanks.
>
> > Kenny
>
> > On Jun 9, 12:20 am, pranny <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Hey Kenny,
>
> > > I was a little confused what meant by 'Data Preload script', but i
> > > think i am clear now :-)
>
> > > Basically, you want to create dynamic stuff (forms, in our case) with
> > > as little typing and as high flexibility as possible.
>
> > > 1. use 
> > > templateshttp://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/gettingstarted/templates...
>
> > > 2. use django form (validation) 
> > > frameworkhttp://code.google.com/appengine/articles/djangoforms.html
>
> > > I hope these two urls are good enough to solve your problem.
>
> > > Revert back, for more clarifications :)
>
> > > --
> > > Pranav Prakash
>
> > > "This life is more than ordinary"
>
> > >http://codecontrol.blogspot.com
>
> > > On Jun 9, 3:55 am, KennyCarlile <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I'm pretty new to GAE, but I've searched around and have been unable
> > > > to find a solution to this problem, although it's quite possible that
> > > > I didn't ask the right question when searching. :o)
>
> > > > When creating an application in PHP/MySQL, I would often write SQL
> > > > scripts to create the DB and permissions, create tables/stored procs/
> > > > views, and then a script to prepopulate data, such as config values,
> > > > types, dropdown lists, etc. It's that last script I'm curious about.
>
> > > > So say, for example, that I have a dropdown with usertype (for
> > > > creating new users) but I don't want that value hardcoded in the
> > > > template. I have values for "admin", "editor", and "contributor". (For
> > > > the sake of the argument, please disregard that this might be a bad
> > > > example.) Normally, I'd have a table called UserTypes and I'd create a
> > > > script to insert 3 values into that table.
>
> > > > Here's the question: how would I do that in GAE? Remember, this
> > > > presumes that I don't want the values hardcoded in Python (in
> > > > handlers), HTML, and I don't want to have to create a form to enter
> > > > all these by hand.
>
> > > > The only solution that I've come up with is to have an admin-section
> > > > page that preloads the database by first wiping the data from the
> > > > types that I want to load and then by manually creating 3 Python
> > > > objects and writing those to the DB. So in this case, I'm basically
> > > > using Python for my data preload script. This isn't how I want to do
> > > > this. I'd really like to just be able to have a script file with SQL
> > > > (err...GQL) to preload data into the datastore. Any thoughts on how I
> > > > could do this?
>
> > > > Thanks for any help that anyone can offer.
>
> > > > Kenny
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