Nick,

Thanks for your answers. I will follow up with a post including my
suggestions and update this thread.

./alex

On Jun 16, 5:04 pm, "Nick Johnson (Google)" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> Thanks for your feedback. Responses inline.
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Alex Popescu <
>
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > While I am appreciating the work and innovation behind the App Engine
> > platform, I believe that billing for CPU time is wrong:
>
> > - the terms are not well defined [1]
>
> I believe the terms are well defined, in our documentation. api-ms is, as
> expected, the number of milliseconds spent processing API calls, and is
> purely informative (eg, it's not used separately for billing). If there's
> something specific you think we could clarify, please let us know.
>
> > - it is not clear how they are measured
>
> What about how CPU is measured would you like clarified?
>
>
>
> > - there have been repeated problems on the platform and these are
> > impacting the CPU analytics
>
> You're right - App Engine has experienced issues, and it's something we're
> actively working on reducing. Any production system will inevitably have
> occasional problems, but we're dedicated to ensuring App Engine works as
> smoothly and as reliably as possible.
>
> > - it includes framework API internal calls CPU usage and this is not
> > under developers' control
>
> API calls are only ever made when a developer's code requests them.
> Admittedly this can sometimes be less obvious than one might expect - for
> example, resolution of ReferenceProperties - but reading the documentation
> will reveal exactly when API calls can be expected.
>
> > - framework API calls are already billable separately
>
> We don't bill for API calls, except in terms of the CPU use they entail,
> with the exception of the Mail API, where we bill per-message. We do place
> limits on API calls and data volumes to and from our APIs, but these are
> purely to prevent (deliberate or accidental) abuse and ensure smooth
> operation for all users. I'm not aware of anyone running into these limits
> in normal operation.
>
> -Nick Johnson
>
>
>
> > The letter can be read here
> >http://themindstorms.blogspot.com/2009/06/open-letter-to-google-app-e...
>
> > ./alex
>
> >http://the.dailycloud.net
>
> > [1] This is just an example
> >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/...
>
> --
> Nick Johnson, App Engine Developer Programs Engineer
> Google Ireland Ltd. :: Registered in Dublin, Ireland, Registration Number:
> 368047
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